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Old January 5, 2014, 01:13 PM   #176
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People complain about Glocks being the same, but oddly love their 1911s. Another company comes out with an all new design that has an issue and people complain that they didn't need to reinvent the wheel.
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Old January 5, 2014, 01:32 PM   #177
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People complain about Glocks being the same, but oddly love their 1911s. Another company comes out with an all new design that has an issue and people complain that they didn't need to reinvent the wheel.
I rarely, if ever see any of those arguments overlap.
I have yet to hear a 1911 lover complain that all glocks look the same, I normally hear them complain that all glocks are ugly but I could care less, it's a tool, doesn't have to look perty for me.

whenever a new gun model has a recurring problem it is often the guys that own multiple versions of the old model that complain about reinventing the wheel and I saw this a lot with the gen 4 glock recalls where all of the gen 3 and lower guys were whining about reinventing the wheel and it made problems for glock.

the fellow with the argument that professionals prefer familiarity has good point. generally I tend to gravitate towards AR15s because of my days in the navy and whenever a navy buddy is thinking about getting their first gun the first qustion that always comes up is "should I buy a M9?". however, law enforcement and military account for a tiny portion of the shooting population and many times they get a bulk discount. the majority of a gun makers profit should be geared towards the civilian majority not the police and military minority. I'm not really trying to troll here, I just think that glock needs to mix things up. variety is the spice of life.
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Old January 5, 2014, 02:28 PM   #178
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the G 42 is already on the shelves at some gun stores
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Old January 5, 2014, 02:32 PM   #179
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Ya, there is one on gunbroker as well, but people have bid it into the stupidly high price range.
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Old January 6, 2014, 10:37 PM   #180
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Any engineers here want to calculate whether a 13 ounce single stack 380 generates less recoil [or less perceived palm slap] than a 26 ounce double stack 9mm?
My LCP slaps harder than my PM9.
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Old January 7, 2014, 01:04 PM   #181
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Looks like the first real review has been posted of the Glock 42:

Part 1
http://youtu.be/gvnuIoYgHOw

Part 2
http://youtu.be/14xUDTjS-kA
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Old January 7, 2014, 02:35 PM   #182
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OK, so if the Model 26 and 27 are called the Baby Glocks......

Can we call the Model 42 the Fetus Glock?

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Old January 8, 2014, 01:11 PM   #183
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I too am looking for a single stack 9 if glock won't make one well someone else will get my money
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Old January 8, 2014, 01:40 PM   #184
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Why would I want a .380 that is the same size as say the shield or the PPS? I just sold my Sig 232 for that exact reason. I'll pass and wait for a single stack 9mm.
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Old January 8, 2014, 02:17 PM   #185
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Why would I want a .380 that is the same size as say the shield or the PPS?
Yes, but this one says GLOCK on the slide.
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Old January 8, 2014, 02:19 PM   #186
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Too bad it doesn't say 9MM on the side
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Old January 8, 2014, 02:36 PM   #187
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Bersa BP9CC is a nice single stack 9mm. Check them out.
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Old January 8, 2014, 03:19 PM   #188
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But would the Shield and BP9CC have the same gentle recoil as the LC380 and Glock 42?
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Old January 8, 2014, 03:32 PM   #189
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"But would the Shield and BP9CC have the same gentle recoil as the LC380 and Glock 42?"

No it would be a 9mm.
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Old January 8, 2014, 03:32 PM   #190
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I will pass on the .380 version but in 9mm, I might be interested.
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Old January 8, 2014, 08:36 PM   #191
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But would the Shield and BP9CC have the same gentle recoil as the LC380 and Glock 42?
No, but I dont find the Shield or PPS in 9mm uncomfortable or intolerable to shoot. If Glock were smart, they would have made thge 42 a 9mm, and created an small pocketable .380.
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Old January 9, 2014, 11:37 AM   #192
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Maybe ....

they (Glock) are being conservative and are bringing this gun out in .380 first and then will follow up in 9 mm and .40 versions. It looks engineered to take a heavier load.

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Old January 9, 2014, 11:06 PM   #193
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The shield has VERY manageable recoil for its size! It's not that far off from a G26 and those are pretty tame
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Old January 10, 2014, 11:17 AM   #194
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Watching the youtube - I was impressed that it was close to the 27 in size. So why not a 9mm? The grip would have to be a touch wider but that's nothing.

It's way bigger than an LCP. The Concealed Nation guy said that there wasn't a holster for it. Well, if you are talking about pocket holsters - there are options. Some of the DeSantis line should fit.

If it's a belt gun - unless you carry IWB - what's the advantage over a 26?

Recoil control for those who are recoil shy might be an plus?

I'm still undecided. A 9mm would have been more exciting. Hey - maybe they could make a GAP!
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Old January 10, 2014, 01:35 PM   #195
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So why not a 9mm? The grip would have to be a touch wider but that's nothing.
The slide will have to be wider as well. 9mm pistols generally have a slide of 1”+. So if a 9mm single stack Glock will end up (lets say) 0.1” narrower than G26 what's the point? You get very marginally narrower handgun with noticeably less capacity and lose the ability to use the larger mags. Who would choose it over G26?
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Old January 10, 2014, 01:41 PM   #196
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The slide will have to be wider as well. 9mm pistols generally have a slide of 1”+.
Sorry, that's incorrect. There are plenty of sub 1" slide 9mm guns, not to mention, the .380 is the exact same size diameter as 9mm luger. The 9mm is just 2mm LONGER than the .380.

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From everything I'm hearing, which seems to make sense, is that they are releasing it in the 380, and THEN will be coming out with the 9mm once this design has proven itself. I guess that makes sense.
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Old January 10, 2014, 02:00 PM   #197
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I'm sorry I must be laughing it up with a dummie in the corner but why on earth would the slide and frame have to be wider to accommodate9mm when they are the same diameter?
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Old January 10, 2014, 02:00 PM   #198
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Sorry, that's incorrect. There are plenty of sub 1" slide 9mm guns
Yes, there are sub 1" slide 9mm’s (I did say “generally”). But Glocks are not known for skinny slides.

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not to mention, the .380 is the exact same size diameter as 9mm luger. The 9mm is just 2mm LONGER than the .380.
Yes, but 9mm operates at much higher pressure and requires a heavier/stronger slide.
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Old January 10, 2014, 04:20 PM   #199
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A 9mm would have been more exciting. Hey - maybe they could make a GAP!
You may be on to something there. The .380 ACP is also known as-.380 Auto, 9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, 9×17mm and 9 mm Browning courto, so adding 9mm GAP to the list shouldn't be a problem.
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If you recall, most 9mm/.40S&W platforms can be converted by switching the barrel and using heavier slide & springs on the same frame. Maybe that's what Glock will do.
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