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Hammerless for pocket carry, either gun in a holster. It ain't rocket science.
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I agree, the 642 type revolvers are the best choice of a carry revolver but because of snagging or legal concerns. In the time I've carried a spurred revolver I've never once had a problem with the spur snagging. I don't imagine that would change in a self defense situation. Considering the number of documented self defense shootings in the country, someone should be able to present a case where the spur caused a problem for the defense. * disclaimer - I don't think that Getz should have been charged with the attempted murder nor do I believe the civil verdict was just. |
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People are needlessly agonizing over hammer versus hammerless.
Has it not occurred to anyone to put the thumb over the hammer while drawing? Move it to the correct position as soon as it is out of the pocket. |
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By this time, your post should have countered my point that in some instances putting your thumb over the hammer will be the furthest thing from your mind. Remember, you have been punched in the head, ribs kicked in...do you think that you are going to say to yourself, "...remember to put thumb over hammer to keep spur from snagging...good thing I didn't bob the hammer...I feel the need for thumb-cocking may present itself..."? Last edited by dahermit; September 2, 2012 at 08:22 PM. |
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It's seems like we agree on most everything being discussed here. I think your point about draw from the pocket while in a compromising situation has less to do with the spur and more to do with the method of carry. Cramming your hand into your pocket to retrieve anything while taking a beating is going to be tough. IMO, pocket carry is wrought with limitations; it's one of the sacrifices you make for the comfort and convenience of carrying a small and lite gun. FWIW, when draw my revolver (as mentioned before a 637, spurred j-frame) my finger rides along the side of the holster and then connects with the frame once it's cleared leather and come out of the pocket. My thumb rides on the other side and begins to establish my grip in the pocket. I never put my thumb over the spur as I feel the protruding thumb is more likely to cause problems. Before the 637 I carried either concealed hammer or bodyguard style and I found the same drawing method works just as well with the 637. When reholstering I always place my thumb over the back of the hammer. I practice drawing every single night, I spend some time on the belt holster but mainly focus on the pocket draw. In the thousands of times I've yanked the revolver from my pocket I've never had a problem. If I ever do, I'll certainly change things around. |
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Too, I may not get the chance to pull my revolver totally out of my pocket. Just time to get grip on gun, angle and pull the trigger. Don't want to take any chances of the hammer being pressed against something or getting caught causing me not to be able to fire.
Just stands to reason, the least snaggable(is that a word ), external moving parts on a pocket carry pistol, the better. If this thread does nothing else, I hope it gets people who pocket carry their ccw to practice drawing their pistol at frantic speed. |
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That and as Dahermit pointed out, drawing from positions you might find yourself in if you were attacked. The ability to fire from the pocket is an important plus for the hammer less models that has not been brought up yet . |
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I see some good points for both hammer spur and no hammer spur. I believe everyone has to make their own call on this as to what you are comfortable with and proficient with. I see it as a no win argument, it all comes down to personal preference.
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1. Somewhere to put your thumb when drawing? 2. The false assurance that you may want to thumb-cock for some inexplicit reason? 3. Unaltered hammer spur gun will bring a higher price than one with a bobbed hammer? 4. It is how I do it and I cannot be wrong? 5. It spoils the looks? |
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I recently got a m-36 and will be getting a serate hammer to bob off. The original will remain available to be re-installed if so desired. Can't hurt resale value either.
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“I'm looking to get a .38 Special. Not sure whether to get exposed hammer, shrouded hammer, or DAO. It's mainly going to be a pocket gun. … Any thoughts, recommendations? Also any holster, ammo ideas? ” [Bel5191]
Pocket carry is risky. Slow draw. OWB or IWB holster carry is better. Even ankle carry is better, especially as the hermit has pointed out, you are down and being kicked to pulp. Galco, Don Hume, etc all make good leather holsters. DAO or DA/SA? Depends. Gent brought a brand new Ruger (with laser grip) to the range. At 7yds (21 ft) he shoots 8 rounds, all in the black bulls-eye. Reloads, turns on the laser, shoots 8 more, all in the bulls-eye, no difference. Says, “that’s enuf of that,” puts the little revolver away, and proceeds to shoot his service pistol, a 40 cal. Says he got the Ruger as a BUG, btw, the Ruger is 22 cal, but if you can shoot it accurately I do not criticize. This gent was good enuf to take the DAO close range rescue shot. If you want to take that rare (aimed) rescue shot and can’t shoot well enuf DAO, then go for the S&W 438, 638 or 649, they are shrouded frame wherein the hammer rides the humpback, DA/SA. (see Rapidray post #44). Best of both worlds. Good luck.
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Yes, not advisable to shoot from pants pocket.
I did witness two street thugs that got into it. One was carrying in his right rear pocket. He went to pull his pistol(small semi-auto) and forgot to keep his 'bugger hook' off the trigger till he cleared his pocket. Shot himself through the butt checks. Flopped around in my front yard till the ambulance arrived. |
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I always wear shorts in the Summer; no ankle carry. I would likely pass-out if I bent over quickly to go for a gun in an ankle holster. I have to use suspenders, so no belt for waist-band carry. And my Summer shirts would not hide a gun anyway. That leaves me with a pocket carry by default. However, when seeing any situation that could be a threat, I put both hands into my pockets, right hand on gun ready to pull. With both hands in my pockets, no one suspects that I have one hand on my gun...which speeds-up draws significantly. |
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Ok...so now I have to buy a S&W Model 638 for pocket carry, instead of my Model 37.
I'll just tell the wife, dahermit made me do it for my own safety! lol |
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