Petition to correct the White House website on 2A

Mr H · August 9, 2014, 11:32 AM

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ution/QmQ5xKzV

On the whitehouse.gov website, The summary of the Second Amendment is as-follows:

Quote:

The Second Amendment gives citizens the right to bear arms.

Please join to have this under-addressing of the meaning of the Right corrected.

Unlicensed Dremel · August 9, 2014, 03:14 PM

Signed

JimPage · August 9, 2014, 03:21 PM

Why bother? It won't change a thing!

**Aguila Blanca** · August 9, 2014, 04:33 PM

Where's the petition? If the link is supposed to take us to a petition, I didn't see anything on that page the resembled a coherent petition. An objective reader would look at that and ask what the heck it's talking about.

JimDandy · August 9, 2014, 04:38 PM

The sad thing is, the White House isn't that far off. The difference between The People and Citizens is pretty close to arguing semantics

kilimanjaro · August 9, 2014, 06:00 PM

They'll just add some language like "when serving in a state milita" or something self-serving along those lines.

OnTheFly · August 9, 2014, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimDandy

The sad thing is, the White House isn't that far off. The difference between The People and Citizens is pretty close to arguing semantics

The use of "Citizens" is only part of the problem. The largest error in the White House text is that the Second Amendment gives NOTHING to the people. It only affirms that people have a natural right. If we say that the government gives us something, then it means they can take it away. The language of the Bill of Rights was specific so that this won't happen.

The other problem with what the White House has written is that it only covers HALF of the Second Amendment. We have the right to "bear arms", but we also have the right to "keep arms". I believe the SCOTUS has affirmed that these are two distinct components of the Second Amendment.

Fly

**Spats McGee** · August 9, 2014, 06:21 PM

We don't do online petitions.

August 9, 2014, 03:21 PM	#3
JimPage Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2010 Location: Rome, NY Posts: 941	Why bother? It won't change a thing! __________________ Jim Page Cogito, ergo armatum sum

August 9, 2014, 06:21 PM	#8
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 8,821	We don't do online petitions. __________________ I'm a lawyer, but I'm not your lawyer. If you need some honest-to-goodness legal advice, go buy some.

August 9, 2014, 03:14 PM	#2
Unlicensed Dremel Junior member Join Date: February 13, 2014 Location: Flathead Valley, MT Posts: 2,187	Signed

August 9, 2014, 04:33 PM	#4
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,467	Where's the petition? If the link is supposed to take us to a petition, I didn't see anything on that page the resembled a coherent petition. An objective reader would look at that and ask what the heck it's talking about.

August 9, 2014, 04:38 PM	#5
JimDandy Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2012 Posts: 2,556	The sad thing is, the White House isn't that far off. The difference between The People and Citizens is pretty close to arguing semantics

August 9, 2014, 06:00 PM	#6
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	They'll just add some language like "when serving in a state milita" or something self-serving along those lines.