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February 25, 2013, 12:12 AM | #26 |
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Thanks for the heads up Ralgha.
Emails sent. I wish Betsy Johnson was my senator! The more I talk to her the more impressed I am, definitely contributing to her campaign. |
February 25, 2013, 11:53 AM | #27 | |
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Re: Oregon Antis One-Up the Rest
An email reply (not to me though) from Representative Jeff Barker, who is a Democrat and also happens to be the chair of the judicial committee. I'm feeling better now, but we can't let up the pressure.
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February 25, 2013, 12:50 PM | #28 |
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keep on it guys............
Read what is going on here in Connectciut
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February 25, 2013, 05:42 PM | #29 | |
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Another reply...
... this one from a staffer, as opposed to the Senator, but still it's a response in our favor:
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February 25, 2013, 05:48 PM | #30 | |
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February 25, 2013, 06:12 PM | #31 | |
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Rep. Sal Esquivel has now replied...
... and while this is more of a mass mailer, it's extremely supportive of our side.
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February 25, 2013, 06:24 PM | #32 | |
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And yet another in support
Another Oregon rep responds in support:
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February 25, 2013, 09:21 PM | #33 |
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Someone should ask them to consider going to convicted criminals homes unannounced to search for guns instead of responsible law abiding gun owners.
Yeah it violates their rights but that would actually "get guns out of the hands of criminals" a lot quicker than violating the rights of law abiding citizens. I mean to automatically target the law abiding citizen that is no threat to anyone without considering that they are NOW letting convicted criminals that can not legally own a gun "own" unreported guns flies in the face of sound reasoning. |
February 26, 2013, 07:16 AM | #34 | |
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Support voiced from Dennis Richardson
Seems to have come from him, too, as opposed to coming from a staffer:
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February 27, 2013, 08:37 AM | #35 | |
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From the office of Senator Larry George...
From a staffer, but on point:
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February 27, 2013, 08:38 AM | #36 | |
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And from Representative Brad Witt:
Just received this one:
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February 27, 2013, 09:54 AM | #37 |
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Re: Oregon Antis One-Up the Rest
It's beginning to seem like the sponsors of this bill are the only antis in the legislature.
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February 27, 2013, 02:28 PM | #38 |
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MORE Anti Gun Bills in Oregon
While not nearly as bad as HB3200 (which seeks to ban pretty much everything), this collection of bills needs to be shot down in a big way. HB3200 was probably introduced to make these bills look ok.
SB 760: Requires a victim to run away (or attempt to) from an attacker before using lethal force. SB 758: Requires gun owners to purchase liability insurance for every firearm they own. Such a thing doesn't even exist. SB 699: Makes the state capitol building a gun-free zone (also known as a shooting gallery for criminals). SB 796: Introduces a requirement to pass a firing range test to get a concealed handgun license. There's currently no requirement to show proficiency. These bills are sponsored by the usual bald-faced liars: Ginny Burdick , Floyd Prozanski, Jackie Dingfelder and Michael Dembrow I've already sent my first email regarding these bills to the judiciary committee, along with a bill for wasting my time with all these calls and emails. http://www.oregonfirearms.org/avalan...lls-introduced |
February 27, 2013, 03:13 PM | #39 |
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One of the staffers here mentioned that since they can't do anything meaningful, they're just trying to annoy and/or make gun ownership a burden.. He was obviously right.
SB 760, from my understanding of Oregon law would modify our Castle Doctrine and require us to retreat from our homes. Since it modifies ORS 161.225 http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/161.225 |
February 27, 2013, 03:39 PM | #40 |
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I wonder if these people would feel any different about firearms if someone posted their names and street addresses. As an Oregonian, I'm fed up.
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February 27, 2013, 03:41 PM | #41 |
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Even the Model Penal Code put limits on the duty to retreat, particularly in the home and if retreat exposes self or others to more danger than confrontation.
Good discussions here: http://www.volokh.com/2012/04/03/the...y-and-liberty/ http://www.volokh.com/2012/03/24/let...sor-exception/ The progressives are incredibly regressive and obviously not interested in basic human rights.
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February 27, 2013, 04:16 PM | #42 | |
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I wrote out a quick letter in response to this, feel free to use/modify if you wish. Also, let me know if I need to edit anything, I'll send it after my shift.
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February 28, 2013, 12:31 AM | #43 | |
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Good job Oregonians! Your letters and phone calls are having an effect, several of the signers of HB 3200 are backing off.
This is a letter from the Democratic Whip and sponsor of the bill: Quote:
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February 28, 2013, 10:37 AM | #44 |
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This is what I just sent the 20 sponsors/co-sponsors, (i.e. morons) of H.B. 3200.
Good Morning, Can you explain to me how House Bill 3200 doesn't violate Article IV of the Bill of Rights? Let me refresh your memory. "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." Would you freely allow access to your home for inspections by law enforcement or others for any reason? Would you freely allow the confiscation of your private property? If your answer is yes you are violating your oath of office to uphold the Constitution. "I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter so help me god." I find this bill not only extraordinary in it's scope but it sets a dangerous precedent. No sane man can proclaim that this and other current legislation isn't about making firearms possession as onerous and restrictive as possible. That the inherent intent of these laws is to register and confiscate private property is without question. This legislation is outrageous in the extreme. "As the patriots of 1776 did to the support of the Declaration of Independence, so to the support of the Constitution and laws let every American pledge his life, his property, and his sacred honor. Let every man remember that to violate the law is to trample on the blood of his father, and to tear the charter of his own and his children's liberty..." --- Abraham Lincoln I await your response. Cordially, |
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March 3, 2013, 04:13 PM | #46 |
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Over reaching laws
Maybe I'm missing something, but I just can't see why any police forces are seemingly OK with all these over-reaching laws which I hear are being proposed in various anti gun states, and even the Federal gov't.
From bans on sale of hi capacity magazines and semi automatic weapons to outright confiscation of guns, it seems to me that passage of these extreme restrictions would suddenly make the currently law-abiding gun owners into enemies of the state, by changing the rules mid-game. All the gun owners I know are currently on the same side as the police, and we're opposed to the same 'bad guys', namely those who break the current set of laws we have in place. But passage of these new restrictions would suddenly create thousands more 'criminals' needing to be brought to the new level of 'justice'. I just can't see why police departments are OK with this. |
March 4, 2013, 03:12 AM | #47 | |
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^A lot of Oregon Sheriffs aren't OK with it.
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Things are looking good otherwise, with our two gun-friendly Democrats, we will have the majority in the Senate. Please email/call Senator Roblan (http://www.leg.state.or.us/roblan/) to encourage him as he is waffling under the pressure. You can contact your legislators on these new bills here: http://www.leg.state.or.us/writelegsltr/ |
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On the front page of today's paper is a local Sheriff and his deputies testifying in committee against silly gun laws in Colorado. Guess what happened next in the committee vote? Next we go to a senate vote. Keep fighting for sense, Oregon.
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March 5, 2013, 05:45 PM | #49 | |
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Response from Floyd Prozanski, chair of the Oregon Senate Judiciary Committee
A bit late in coming, but interesting; he seems to be riding the fence on the validity of an AWB, but prefers to leave that up to Congress.
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March 6, 2013, 12:05 PM | #50 |
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Folks, I merged the two Oregon threads.
Good luck! Lived in OR for a third of my life and don't want to see gun rights go down the drain there. Glenn
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