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WESHOOT2 · May 13, 2010, 12:45 AM

We'll take ten steps out the door, and I'll let you shoot a mag full of 9x19 through a 41AE barrel (I didn't notice I still had the 41 barrel in it until, the chrono numbers lit the bulb.....).

The cases will look somewhat similar to those pictured.

briandg · May 13, 2010, 01:33 PM

So you didn't even notice that the thing shot differently firing the 9 mm out the oversized barrel? that is astounding. Does it appear to you that the expanded case sealed the chamber before the bullet left?

orionengnr · May 13, 2010, 06:51 PM

When I first started handloading (only two years ago) I started brass-whoring at the range (picking up every case I could find).

I found a case that looks a lot like that one. My guess at the time was that someone fired a 9mm cartridge through a .40S&W pistol.

I kept it, along with a few others I've found, as a reminder not to do certain stupid things. It's worked reasonably well so far.

**JohnKSa** · May 13, 2010, 08:37 PM

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So you didn't even notice that the thing shot differently firing the 9 mm out the oversized barrel? that is astounding.

I witnessed the firing that generated the deformed shell I have. The reports sounded normal and the shooter didn't seem to notice any issues with recoil difference although I didn't get to talk with him extensively about it. He was pretty unhappy about the effect on his score and didn't want to talk much. He did have several malfunctions before he realized what the problem was and accuracy was, shall we say, unimpressive.

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I kept it, along with a few others I've found, as a reminder not to do certain stupid things.

That's exactly why I picked up the one I have, and why it sits on the computer.

Jim243 · May 13, 2010, 08:42 PM

John, I would have moved over 4 or 5 booths if it was me. I had a shooter next to me completely distroy a S&W mod 27 15 feet from me with a squip. I spent the next 15 min checking that I had not been hit by flying peices.

How do you like the 10mm, better or worse than the 40??

Jim

briandg · May 13, 2010, 11:49 PM

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I kept it, along with a few others I've found, as a reminder not to do certain stupid things.

I have a 10" strip of crime scene tape in my desk, a souvenir of a teenager dying so horribly I will never forget it. I used to leave it where my daughter could see it. I don't know if she got any good out of it, but it does me good to remember it.

**JohnKSa** · May 14, 2010, 09:05 PM

Jim,

He was shooting immediately before me on a particular stage at a GSSF match and as soon as he figured out the problem he switched to proper ammunition. Before he figured out what was wrong no one even realized that there was a problem other than he was having more jams than one would expect.

I don't own any .40S&W pistols so I guess you could say I like the 10mm better.

May 13, 2010, 12:45 AM	#26
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	come to my house; I own a range We'll take ten steps out the door, and I'll let you shoot a mag full of 9x19 through a 41AE barrel (I didn't notice I still had the 41 barrel in it until, the chrono numbers lit the bulb.....). The cases will look somewhat similar to those pictured. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

May 14, 2010, 09:05 PM	#32
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,971	Jim, He was shooting immediately before me on a particular stage at a GSSF match and as soon as he figured out the problem he switched to proper ammunition. Before he figured out what was wrong no one even realized that there was a problem other than he was having more jams than one would expect. I don't own any .40S&W pistols so I guess you could say I like the 10mm better. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

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May 13, 2010, 01:33 PM	#27
briandg Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2010 Posts: 5,468	So you didn't even notice that the thing shot differently firing the 9 mm out the oversized barrel? that is astounding. Does it appear to you that the expanded case sealed the chamber before the bullet left?

May 13, 2010, 06:51 PM	#28
orionengnr Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2004 Posts: 5,173	When I first started handloading (only two years ago) I started brass-whoring at the range (picking up every case I could find). I found a case that looks a lot like that one. My guess at the time was that someone fired a 9mm cartridge through a .40S&W pistol. I kept it, along with a few others I've found, as a reminder not to do certain stupid things. It's worked reasonably well so far.

May 13, 2010, 08:42 PM	#30
Jim243 Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2009 Location: Just off Route 66 Posts: 5,067	John, I would have moved over 4 or 5 booths if it was me. I had a shooter next to me completely distroy a S&W mod 27 15 feet from me with a squip. I spent the next 15 min checking that I had not been hit by flying peices. How do you like the 10mm, better or worse than the 40?? Jim