Aluminium Rings Weight Saving

trg42wraglefragle · April 22, 2014, 11:44 PM

I currently have a Nikon Monarch scope mounted to my Tikka T3 with Warne steel rings and Burris steel bases.

I wanted to know how much weight I would save if I were to buy a set of Talleys lightweight aluminium rings? Done some searches, but haven't been able to come up with an actual figure. Just people saying they will be lighter.

mxsailor803 · April 23, 2014, 05:48 AM

I would think maybe a couple oz's. I don't see losing lbs as a possibility. I'm just shooting from the hip on this one.

Kreyzhorse · April 23, 2014, 07:15 PM

A few ounces? Unless you are lugging that thing miles and miles, it shouldn't make much of a difference.

Lucas McCain · April 23, 2014, 08:44 PM

OK, playing devils advocate here, and also need to heed my own advice!
If your planning a rigors back pack hunting trip, or going into high elevations the best place to remove the weight is under the belt. That is reaps you a much better advantage, than changing scope rings.
In the event,you are trying to reduce the weight of a target rifle, then yes it will help. If one was to skelitonize the bolt handle, stock, flute the bolt and the barrel and go to thin aluminum butt plate, that helps bunches.

**4V50 Gary** · April 23, 2014, 10:24 PM

I dislike aluminum for sight bases or scope mounts. Aluminum walks.

Sierra280 · April 23, 2014, 11:48 PM

^^this.

I had some weaver tactical 6-bolt rings (al). I went through everything, wondering why my groups were walking; finally replaced them with Leupold mark 4 rings (steel), suddenly the problem went away.

Also, I've gone on extended backpacking trips plenty of times with a 60-80lb pack, are a few ounces extra on your gun REALLY that big of a deal.

trg42wraglefragle · April 24, 2014, 01:02 AM

Depending on how much weight it would save I might bother but might not.
I used to have a Burris FFII and the Tikka rings, and gained a heap of weight when I got my new scope.

No it's not the end of the world, but my current rings are too high, so if I was going to have to buy new ones, why not go for some lighter ones. I am hoping to get a lighter stock in the future, but buying light weight rings is a lot cheaper and easier than having the barrel and or bolt fluted.

leadcounsel · April 24, 2014, 03:55 AM

Why would solid weaver 6 screw mounts 'walk?' If they are snug on the gun, and on the scope, they should not move. I have them and no issues on a .308.

Aluminum is used in hundreds of applications requiring light, rigid strong material. Car engines for instance.

As far as weight saving... ounces add up quickly. Cut them everywhere you can.

jmr40 · April 25, 2014, 04:23 PM

A set of Talley lightweights are 2.5 oz. A set of steel rings vary from 4-6 oz depending on manufacturer and ring height. Tall rings are a lot heavier than low's.

While 2-4 oz doesn't sound like much, 2-4 oz in several places adds up.

For example you can save 4 oz on mounts
A Leupold scope is 5-6 oz lighter than many others.
A short action rifle is 4-5 oz lighter than long action.
Remingtons are 10 oz lighter than Weatherby
A nylon carry strap is 8-10 oz lighter than leather

By making careful choices a hunter can reduce the weight carried by more than 2 lbs and not spend an extra dime on expensive modifications.

Quote:

I dislike aluminum for sight bases or scope mounts. Aluminum walks.

Cheap or defective mount may walk. Good stuff don't. Quality aluminum is every bit as good as steel. DNZ or Talley are BETTER than most steel mounts

Brian Pfleuger · April 25, 2014, 04:53 PM

Good quality aluminum is what I use now.

DNZ mounts are very good quality and the base and rings are a single, solid unit. Their customer service is schizophrenic and their "silver" is horrible, I'd never, ever buy silver again and I'd rather just buy new than deal with their "service" but the product is otherwise excellent.

We just had a very similar discussion:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/show....php?p=5807614

Clark · May 11, 2014, 08:08 PM

I would pay $10/ounce to make a rifle lighter.
But with Aluminum rings, it SAVES money to make them lighter.

I typically get some kind of bargain basement tactical rings, and never have any problems losing zero while deer hunting.

http://www.amazon.com/Weaver-Tactica...r_1_2?ie=UTF8&

April 22, 2014, 11:44 PM	#1
trg42wraglefragle Senior Member Join Date: April 21, 2008 Location: new zealand Posts: 856	Aluminium Rings Weight Saving I currently have a Nikon Monarch scope mounted to my Tikka T3 with Warne steel rings and Burris steel bases. I wanted to know how much weight I would save if I were to buy a set of Talleys lightweight aluminium rings? Done some searches, but haven't been able to come up with an actual figure. Just people saying they will be lighter.

April 23, 2014, 07:15 PM	#3
Kreyzhorse Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2006 Location: NKY Posts: 12,463	A few ounces? Unless you are lugging that thing miles and miles, it shouldn't make much of a difference. __________________ "He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson

April 23, 2014, 08:44 PM	#4
Lucas McCain Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2013 Location: Callaway, MN Posts: 361	OK, playing devils advocate here, and also need to heed my own advice! If your planning a rigors back pack hunting trip, or going into high elevations the best place to remove the weight is under the belt. That is reaps you a much better advantage, than changing scope rings. In the event,you are trying to reduce the weight of a target rifle, then yes it will help. If one was to skelitonize the bolt handle, stock, flute the bolt and the barrel and go to thin aluminum butt plate, that helps bunches. __________________ If you have time to do it twice, then you have time to do it once right and put your name on it

April 23, 2014, 10:24 PM	#5
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,831	I dislike aluminum for sight bases or scope mounts. Aluminum walks. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

April 25, 2014, 04:53 PM	#10
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	Good quality aluminum is what I use now. DNZ mounts are very good quality and the base and rings are a single, solid unit. Their customer service is schizophrenic and their "silver" is horrible, I'd never, ever buy silver again and I'd rather just buy new than deal with their "service" but the product is otherwise excellent. We just had a very similar discussion: http://thefiringline.com/forums/show....php?p=5807614 __________________ Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley

April 23, 2014, 05:48 AM	#2
mxsailor803 Senior Member Join Date: February 8, 2010 Location: SC Posts: 1,344	I would think maybe a couple oz's. I don't see losing lbs as a possibility. I'm just shooting from the hip on this one.

April 23, 2014, 11:48 PM	#6
Sierra280 Junior member Join Date: July 29, 2013 Location: Gardnerville, NV Posts: 569	^^this. I had some weaver tactical 6-bolt rings (al). I went through everything, wondering why my groups were walking; finally replaced them with Leupold mark 4 rings (steel), suddenly the problem went away. Also, I've gone on extended backpacking trips plenty of times with a 60-80lb pack, are a few ounces extra on your gun REALLY that big of a deal.

April 24, 2014, 01:02 AM	#7
trg42wraglefragle Senior Member Join Date: April 21, 2008 Location: new zealand Posts: 856	Depending on how much weight it would save I might bother but might not. I used to have a Burris FFII and the Tikka rings, and gained a heap of weight when I got my new scope. No it's not the end of the world, but my current rings are too high, so if I was going to have to buy new ones, why not go for some lighter ones. I am hoping to get a lighter stock in the future, but buying light weight rings is a lot cheaper and easier than having the barrel and or bolt fluted.

April 24, 2014, 03:55 AM	#8
leadcounsel Junior member Join Date: September 8, 2005 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 2,119	Why would solid weaver 6 screw mounts 'walk?' If they are snug on the gun, and on the scope, they should not move. I have them and no issues on a .308. Aluminum is used in hundreds of applications requiring light, rigid strong material. Car engines for instance. As far as weight saving... ounces add up quickly. Cut them everywhere you can.

May 11, 2014, 08:08 PM	#11
Clark Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 1999 Location: WA, the ever blue state Posts: 4,678	I would pay $10/ounce to make a rifle lighter. But with Aluminum rings, it SAVES money to make them lighter. I typically get some kind of bargain basement tactical rings, and never have any problems losing zero while deer hunting. http://www.amazon.com/Weaver-Tactica...r_1_2?ie=UTF8& __________________ The word 'forum" does not mean "not criticizing books." "Ad hominem fallacy" is not the same as point by point criticism of books. If you bought the book, and believe it all, it may FEEL like an ad hominem attack, but you might strive to accept other points of view may exist. Are we a nation of competing ideas, or a nation of forced conformity of thought?

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