Re-Blued Model 10 is Home! - Page 2

Model12Win · March 17, 2015, 11:16 AM

The S&W Model 10 revolver was used for some years before the GLOCK pistol replaced it in Law Enforcement circles.

The Model 10 has good accuracy for a revolver of it's type, and is chambered in the .38 special cartridge. It's a good choice, you did well and I like the reblue.

redrick · March 19, 2015, 03:24 PM

Nice model 10 & re blue . I almost bought a model 15 last week in similar condition and was thinking of re bluing it . The price of the re bluing turned me away though .

Bill DeShivs · March 19, 2015, 04:13 PM

I really don't mean to be the bad guy here, but there is practically no reason to reblue a working (using) gun. It's very obvious that bluing doesn't wear well at all. It offers little protection from rust. If you are going to refinish-why not go with an upgraded finish like hard chrome, nitriding, or even nickel? These finishes cost very little more than bluing and are lifetime finishes.

Waspinator · March 19, 2015, 06:01 PM

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I really don't mean to be the bad guy here, but there is practically no reason to reblue a working (using) gun.

Other than he wanted to? Isn't that all that matters? This is the third time you posted in this thread disparaging his decision to re-blue HIS gun. Why does this bother you so much that you have to continually rain on his parade?

OP, I for one think it came out nice and really like your choice in the grips. It turned out to be a very nice gun, that anyone...well most... would be happy to own.

Homerboy · March 19, 2015, 06:21 PM

I reblued it because I want my guns to look good and when I bought it I rolled the dice on the unseen gun from Buds. Some guys had gotten some almost new looking ones. When mine arrived, I was disappointed in the cosmetic issues. The serial number dates to 1981, which was a pivotal year in my life and I knew if I tried to sell it to finance a better looking one, that I would lose more money.

I'm not worried about blue loss since I'm never gonna holster it. I will be shooting it though.

When all is said and done, 300 bucks is not gonn change my life. My mortgage is still paid every month and my kids are not hungry.

Finally, it's a gun I wanna pass down to my son. Of all of my guns, my son points to this model 10 as his favorite. He's only 8 and I look forward to the day I gift it to him. I'll also be "wasting" some money on a nice box at some point!

Bill DeShivs · March 19, 2015, 06:43 PM

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Other than he wanted to? Isn't that all that matters? This is the third time you posted in this thread disparaging his decision to re-blue HIS gun. Why does this bother you so much that you have to continually rain on his parade?

OP, I for one think it came out nice and really like your choice in the grips. It turned out to be a very nice gun, that anyone...well most... would be happy to own.

Of course, it's his gun and he needs to be happy with it. I'm glad he is.
I said I didn't want to be the bad guy, but I thought this a good place to bring up upgraded finishes-something few think about when the decision is made to refinish.

Homerboy · March 19, 2015, 06:58 PM

I don't like nickel finishes, and I would never out such a modern finish like hard chrome on a 35 year old gun. I have a model 67 and I have the Stainless look covered. I wanted a high polish blue and that's what I got.

And I don't regret it a bit.

Bill DeShivs · March 19, 2015, 10:56 PM

Good for you!

Water-Man · March 19, 2015, 11:21 PM

A good place for you to bring up upgraded finishes Bill would be for you to start your own thread.

Bill DeShivs · March 20, 2015, 12:33 AM

Well, thank you for that tidbit of wisdom!

redrick · March 20, 2015, 08:33 PM

I for one like the looks of a blue gun a lot more than a silver gun . I do have stainless guns though . I just would never turn a blue gun silver .

Sevens · March 20, 2015, 10:21 PM

I cannot agree that there is "practically" no reason to do it. I quickly envision a Victory Model sitting next to a post-WWII commercial Model 10, and one of them just looks atrocious. Certainly, when sitting next to a Carbine or Garand on a dull green GI blanket, it totally looks "correct" and fitting, but sitting next to a lustrous commercial model, it looks like complete hell.

In fact, re-bluing that revolver is a fantastic idea on the whole when you consider that it is the antithesis of rare, it's quite simply one of -THE- finest firearm designs in the history of humankind, so re-finishing would never diminish the collector value because it doesn't carry much of that due to the massive production numbers.

A fantastic gun that he totally wants to pass down to his kids? I can't think of a better idea!

Bill DeShivs · March 20, 2015, 10:54 PM

Let me explain "practically."
Certainly, if one wants to duplicate the original factory look, rebluing is appropriate.
But, as a practical finish, bluing is just about the worst finish there is. While it's pretty, bluing offers almost no rust protection, and it wears terribly. My point was- if you are going to refinish, it's more practical to use a better finish. The price difference is negligible, and any refinish ruins a guns collectability, so there is no "practical" reason to waste money on rebluing that is going to wear right off, and will rust readily.

Sevens · March 21, 2015, 01:09 AM

Wouldn't it also make sense that your statement to practicality then points a finger at like... I dunno, maybe 65-70% of EVERY handgun ever built before the advent of stainless?

Some of the most scorchingly gorgeous handguns that ever graced the globe saw the light of day wearing a high polish and lustrous blue. I can't imagine anyone pigeonholed them as having a totally impractical finish...?!

Homerboy · March 21, 2015, 05:57 AM

Bluing doesn't "wear off" that easily. It take lots of times holstering and reholstering to do that. This was a cop gun and it sure had seen lots of holster wear. The site here only allows 6 pics and I had others, but couldn't post them, but the gun had maybe 60% of bluing left and the blue that did remain was awful. The grips were beat up too. This gun will not be holstered. It's a range gun only. It will not be in the rain. I clean and wax it so I will not be seeing rust. This isn't my first blued gun. I know how to care for it. It's sitting in the safe with a dehumidifier in it as I type this.

This isn't the gun that started WW 1. It's a model 10. It's not rare and it had no real collectibility. But it had the pinned barrel of older guns so I did the work.

For comparison, the Model 10 "Classic" that S&W offered cost more than this gun with the work included. And mine doesn't have the cheesy lock on the side, the round butt, or the other cost cutting measures that the newer ones do.

And one day when my son gets it, I am sure he will treat it like I do. Admire it for its classic beauty, shoot it since that's what it was made for, clean it and put it away until next time. I'm sure he'll have more modern guns for defense and carry, as I do.

Bill DeShivs · March 21, 2015, 01:30 PM

Homerboy-
As I said, it's great that you are happy with your gun.

Sevens-
Bluing is a beautiful finish. I was speaking of refinishing, in general.
Guns have also traditionally been offered with upgraded finishes-
first silver plating, then nickel, then industrial chrome, then nitriding.

WIN71 · March 22, 2015, 11:39 PM

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Bluing doesn't "wear off" that easily. It take lots of times holstering and reholstering to do that. This was a cop gun and it sure had seen lots of holster wear.

Holster wear doesn't necessarily mean the weapon has been unholstered and reholestered multiple times. After 4 years of carrying a Colt Python in both a swivel and open faced holster I was required to have it reblued to pass inspection. Bouncing around in the holster, not only riding motors but walking, sitting, throwing the pistol laden Sam Brown on my easy chair at end of shift, and everything else that caused movement between the weapon and the hard harness leather holster simply rubbed the bluing off. In those 4 years I didn't draw and holster that weapon over 75 times.

Homerboy · March 23, 2015, 04:43 AM

Absolutely. In fact, NOT drawing a weapon from a holster could be even worse. Gotta wipe them down. But as I said, this one won't be holstered at all. No reason to. It's a range gun that could also be used in home defense since it sits in the safe next to another revolver with a speedloader next to them. The other revolver( a Model 67) is the gun my wife would use if she ever needed a gun. She is comfortable with using a speedloader and a 38. If she grabs the 10 instead of the 67, no big deal since they're basically the same gun.

March 19, 2015, 04:13 PM	#28
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,978	I really don't mean to be the bad guy here, but there is practically no reason to reblue a working (using) gun. It's very obvious that bluing doesn't wear well at all. It offers little protection from rust. If you are going to refinish-why not go with an upgraded finish like hard chrome, nitriding, or even nickel? These finishes cost very little more than bluing and are lifetime finishes. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

March 19, 2015, 10:56 PM	#33
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,978	Good for you! __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

March 20, 2015, 12:33 AM	#35
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,978	Well, thank you for that tidbit of wisdom! __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

March 20, 2015, 10:21 PM	#37
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,755	I cannot agree that there is "practically" no reason to do it. I quickly envision a Victory Model sitting next to a post-WWII commercial Model 10, and one of them just looks atrocious. Certainly, when sitting next to a Carbine or Garand on a dull green GI blanket, it totally looks "correct" and fitting, but sitting next to a lustrous commercial model, it looks like complete hell. In fact, re-bluing that revolver is a fantastic idea on the whole when you consider that it is the antithesis of rare, it's quite simply one of -THE- finest firearm designs in the history of humankind, so re-finishing would never diminish the collector value because it doesn't carry much of that due to the massive production numbers. A fantastic gun that he totally wants to pass down to his kids? I can't think of a better idea! __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

March 20, 2015, 10:54 PM	#38
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,978	Let me explain "practically." Certainly, if one wants to duplicate the original factory look, rebluing is appropriate. But, as a practical finish, bluing is just about the worst finish there is. While it's pretty, bluing offers almost no rust protection, and it wears terribly. My point was- if you are going to refinish, it's more practical to use a better finish. The price difference is negligible, and any refinish ruins a guns collectability, so there is no "practical" reason to waste money on rebluing that is going to wear right off, and will rust readily. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

March 17, 2015, 11:16 AM	#26
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	The S&W Model 10 revolver was used for some years before the GLOCK pistol replaced it in Law Enforcement circles. The Model 10 has good accuracy for a revolver of it's type, and is chambered in the .38 special cartridge. It's a good choice, you did well and I like the reblue.

March 19, 2015, 03:24 PM	#27
redrick Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,041	Nice model 10 & re blue . I almost bought a model 15 last week in similar condition and was thinking of re bluing it . The price of the re bluing turned me away though .

March 19, 2015, 06:21 PM	#30
Homerboy Junior member Join Date: June 16, 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,320	I reblued it because I want my guns to look good and when I bought it I rolled the dice on the unseen gun from Buds. Some guys had gotten some almost new looking ones. When mine arrived, I was disappointed in the cosmetic issues. The serial number dates to 1981, which was a pivotal year in my life and I knew if I tried to sell it to finance a better looking one, that I would lose more money. I'm not worried about blue loss since I'm never gonna holster it. I will be shooting it though. When all is said and done, 300 bucks is not gonn change my life. My mortgage is still paid every month and my kids are not hungry. Finally, it's a gun I wanna pass down to my son. Of all of my guns, my son points to this model 10 as his favorite. He's only 8 and I look forward to the day I gift it to him. I'll also be "wasting" some money on a nice box at some point!

March 19, 2015, 06:58 PM	#32
Homerboy Junior member Join Date: June 16, 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,320	I don't like nickel finishes, and I would never out such a modern finish like hard chrome on a 35 year old gun. I have a model 67 and I have the Stainless look covered. I wanted a high polish blue and that's what I got. And I don't regret it a bit.

March 19, 2015, 11:21 PM	#34
Water-Man Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,126	A good place for you to bring up upgraded finishes Bill would be for you to start your own thread.

March 20, 2015, 08:33 PM	#36
redrick Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,041	I for one like the looks of a blue gun a lot more than a silver gun . I do have stainless guns though . I just would never turn a blue gun silver .

March 21, 2015, 01:09 AM	#39
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,755	Wouldn't it also make sense that your statement to practicality then points a finger at like... I dunno, maybe 65-70% of EVERY handgun ever built before the advent of stainless? Some of the most scorchingly gorgeous handguns that ever graced the globe saw the light of day wearing a high polish and lustrous blue. I can't imagine anyone pigeonholed them as having a totally impractical finish...?! __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

March 21, 2015, 05:57 AM	#40
Homerboy Junior member Join Date: June 16, 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,320	Bluing doesn't "wear off" that easily. It take lots of times holstering and reholstering to do that. This was a cop gun and it sure had seen lots of holster wear. The site here only allows 6 pics and I had others, but couldn't post them, but the gun had maybe 60% of bluing left and the blue that did remain was awful. The grips were beat up too. This gun will not be holstered. It's a range gun only. It will not be in the rain. I clean and wax it so I will not be seeing rust. This isn't my first blued gun. I know how to care for it. It's sitting in the safe with a dehumidifier in it as I type this. This isn't the gun that started WW 1. It's a model 10. It's not rare and it had no real collectibility. But it had the pinned barrel of older guns so I did the work. For comparison, the Model 10 "Classic" that S&W offered cost more than this gun with the work included. And mine doesn't have the cheesy lock on the side, the round butt, or the other cost cutting measures that the newer ones do. And one day when my son gets it, I am sure he will treat it like I do. Admire it for its classic beauty, shoot it since that's what it was made for, clean it and put it away until next time. I'm sure he'll have more modern guns for defense and carry, as I do. Last edited by Homerboy; March 21, 2015 at 06:04 AM.

March 21, 2015, 01:30 PM	#41
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,978	Homerboy- As I said, it's great that you are happy with your gun. Sevens- Bluing is a beautiful finish. I was speaking of refinishing, in general. Guns have also traditionally been offered with upgraded finishes- first silver plating, then nickel, then industrial chrome, then nitriding. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

March 23, 2015, 04:43 AM	#43
Homerboy Junior member Join Date: June 16, 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,320	Absolutely. In fact, NOT drawing a weapon from a holster could be even worse. Gotta wipe them down. But as I said, this one won't be holstered at all. No reason to. It's a range gun that could also be used in home defense since it sits in the safe next to another revolver with a speedloader next to them. The other revolver( a Model 67) is the gun my wife would use if she ever needed a gun. She is comfortable with using a speedloader and a 38. If she grabs the 10 instead of the 67, no big deal since they're basically the same gun.

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