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June 6, 2013, 10:16 AM | #101 |
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I would have no problem with an organized march where participants are holding placards with pictures of guns, the 2nd Amendment, Flags, pro-freedom messages, etc. Sort of a Tea-Party rally addressing gun rights instead of taxes.
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Guess which genius not only showed up.....
In line with some predictions from the early part of this thread, where the march in DC was officially cancelled, it appears this potentially bad publicity isn't going to help law abiding gun owners:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sAGGoPidEY The Washington Post indicates the DCPD is looking into it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...080_story.html Any bets on Mr. Kokesh's future?
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From the link just above...
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What's the chance he's actually pretty clever andshot this video on a green screen and is looking for a false arrest suit?
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I can understand why someone would organize a march like this, but it's just too extreme. These guys are going to end up getting too much attention for all the wrong reasons. I sure as heck would never participate in that!
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March-yes!! Armed-NO!!!! Only thing we should carry are signs, banners, placards-and lots of trash bags.
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When I first saw the video, I laughed so hard I think I bruised my sinuses. Then I realized it wasn't meant to be funny.
The part at the end when he cycles the action on the shotgun for dramatic effect is brilliant. "We are the FINAL [chunk!]. AMERICAN [chunk!] REVOLUTION!" I thought for sure he was going to yell "this is Sparta." The title is somewhat misleading as well. "Open Carry March on DC a success?" I don't see any marching. I just see one guy. Frankly, the DC police can investigate it or not. If I were in their shoes, I simply wouldn't give him the attention. Ironically, that's what I'd suggest gun owners do as well. There's a line between civil disobedience and being a dink to get attention, and it's really not all that fuzzy.
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And to think he WAS a Marine, emphasis on the was, he is an embarrassment to our Corps and the second amendment cause and no longer deserves the title if you ask me. What a freakin froot loop.
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Talk has done nothing but let the left erode our rights.
At what point do you do more than talk? Are you going to wait for them to take the rest of our rights before you do more talk? How far is too far? They don't just talk why should we? When talk has failed and you think marching is crazy what should we do then? You'll probably do what most Americans are doing...Nothing. Wake Up America!!! Boomer
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To suggest that we're doing nothing because we don't support a certain particular action is a bit disingenuous.
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July 10, 2013, 09:31 AM | #113 |
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...y.html?hpid=z2
Busted for drugs while in possession of a firearm. Not clear if the video triggered the search.
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The guy is just a mad dog, hopefully not too many people are stupid enough to follow him.
Seems like they got him in the court system so he will probably end up fighting charges, getting tired/wore down, taking a plea which requires good behavior and the mad dog gets his balls sniped. I am all for protest and activism but you need some kind of tactics and logical methods or you are just a ranting idiot. |
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Hmm?
In the Post article linked above, he is quoted as saying that he was expecting a raid by police after he posted the video. So, why on earth, if he was expecting the raid, did he have illegal drugs in his home? I can only think of three reasons: 1) the guy is a complete idiot or 2) the drugs in question were prescriptions for someone else and he is a complete idiot or 3) that they were his scripts and the police are just using them as an excuse for an arrest which will be thrown out later. Hmm?
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The article says he was in possession of hallucinogenic mushrooms when arrested. I was unaware that anybody prescribed magic mushrooms for anything.
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Ah, yes!
Reading too fast and I missed that little bit! So, it is choice #1. The guy is an idiot! I mean, really, why have illegal drugs in your home when you are expecting a raid! Simple, simple, simple!
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Yeah, if you're going to be an activist, you should expect contact with the police and plan accordingly. . . . It really is that simple.
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Well, this guy's wanted to be a martyr the whole time, and now he'll be doing it from prison. At least a felony conviction will bar him from owning firearms in the future.
I guess we won't be seeing him next Independence Day. FWIW, despite the headline, the article does a fairly good article of painting Kokesh as a lone crackpot rather than a spokesperson for our cause.
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I hate being the tin-foil hat wearer but
When was the last time anyone such as Kokesh was a big-hallucinogen fan? And more importantly... when was the last time the local PD needed 20 SWAT team members to clear a house full for mushrooms? I know they overuse these forces to make everything abundantly overpowering/safe, along with instilling a chilling effect, but I just don't buy it. The article i read on the Washington Post screamed of "EAT THIS STORY UP AND DON'T QUESTION IT." Edit: I am in no way a fan or even tolerable of his idea of an armed march on DC.
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BTW: Kokesh was arrested by the U. S. Park Police who are responsible for policing Freedom Plaza, where Kokesh went into his act. Kokesh may be looking at a federal felony charge. From the link: Quote:
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Additionally, we're looking at four felonies at the very least:
Given all that, it's reasonable to consider this man armed, mentally unbalanced, and potentially very dangerous.
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I second the "mentally unbalanced" description!
That is more PC than what I was thinking - NIMROD!
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The fact he was caught with mushrooms helps me to understand some of his rather odd behavior over the past couple of years.
I did not think much of his intelligence and that opinion has not been changed by the fact he allegedly kept illegal drugs in his house along with firearms after putting a video like that on the internet. |
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