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Gun control has the same aim it always had on the US: to take guns away from the poor-especially minorities. The EXACT arguements the left uses to oppose expanded voter registration laws can be applied to gun control measures (the poor can't take time off for work for extra licensing, can't hire child care, can't afford higher fees or training times, etc.). I completely agree it's an interesting bit of social engineering, the easiest way for the plutocrats to keep people in a society of growing disparity is to disarm them! (Why does the Russian revolution come to mind?)
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Let's not replay the Russian revolution.
However, I do think that tragedies can lead to already antigun states to tighten laws and mixed politics states like Colorado to do also depending on local legislative circumstances. The latter might be overturned. The former (NY, MA , CT or CA) will not be overturned in the legislatures. Court challenges might work but that's an empirical question. I don't count on the SCOTUS to give us the 10 RKBA commandments from the Fab 5 Heller justices.
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Actually I was referring to when the revolution was underway and the people (sick and tired of the oppression of the czars and the aristocracy) began killing all the aristocrats. Many of the wealthy went as far as rubbing dirt and grease on the faces and clothes, and rubbing gasoline on their hands to make it seems as though they were working class.
And let's be perfectly clear; America is NOT a democracy, it's a voting republic (with a disturbing amount of similarities to the worlds first voting republic) The first election I voted in (18yrs old) the Supreme Court chose the president. Then came the useless wars, which killed, maimed and damaged so much of my generation. I've watched the television history of Vietnam, do much of what the public was fed to get us into the Middle East was almost verbatim. The bill of rights has been all but completely destroyed. And the primary tasking of the police/military is preservation of Capitol (why was the 10th Mtn div. protecting a Chinese copper mine in Afghanistan?). The icing on the cake is that our elected representitaves in the houses of goverment work under the directive of and for the interests of the wealthy elite and multinational corporations. Regardless of what gun control measured are passed, just by shear numbers, it would be all but impossible to disarm Americans, thankfully. If you think you live in a country 'of the people, by the people, and for the people,' pull your head out of the sand. And BTW, to all the older generations (who should have been marching in the streets in masses, instead of arguing about the terrible things 'that other political party is doing' thank-you from all the millennials for letting a us inherent such a great democracy. And I'll let you in on a little secret: the war between our 2 major parties is just subterfuge-they are all working toward the same end, to further the plutocracy! |
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Actually most mass shootings have happened because of a general lack of care for the mental health of our citizens. Even though the military is downplaying it, the latest fort hood shooting can be directly linked to a lack of proper mental health care.
BTW, Charles Whitman wasn't on SSRI's, he just couldn't get the proper medical care he needed. |
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Reading the discussion, it is too much of an unfocused general political discussion. Not our focus.
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