May 1, 2015, 09:03 AM | #1 |
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N pap vs WASR
Title says it all, I have the opportunity to buy one or the other, the only difference price wise is $10. So let's hear it, pro's & con's for both? Also, I'm not worried about finding the "yugo" furniture for the pap like everyone seems to make a big deal of. So thanks in advance.
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May 1, 2015, 09:16 AM | #2 |
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NPAP will be harder on your cheek because of the higher stock angle when using just iron sights.
It's set up for use with an optic. Denis |
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I'm either planning on buying a 6 pos stock or an ace folder, so no worries there. But what about accuracy, durability, etc?
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I got pretty good accuracy with two NPAPs, I wouldn't worry about durability.
You know it doesn't take standard AK stocks, right? Denis |
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Why would anyone want to replace that superb Teak wood stock?
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See Post #2, Mo.
It's built for an optic & many find it uncomfortable when using iron sights. I had a bruise that lasted two days on my cheek after shooting the first with irons. No problems with the second using an optic. Denis |
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I picked one up when I went to the LGS and it was rather uncomfortable on the cheek (first thing I noticed).
It seemed like a very well built rifle. The action was actually decently smooth for not being fired. I've not seen a WASR 10/63 so I don't know about that one.
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You have to shoot one to really appreciate the ouch.
Higher stock angle means you have to scrunch your face lower to get to the sights. Left the stock resting directly against my cheekbone instead of below it, and even in the mild 7.62x39, that adds up. Denis |
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Just hold the npap properly with your nose up to the receiver and poof! Cheek slap is gone! but since that doesn't matter, the wasr has interchangeable furniture and gas block whereas the npap will need npap specific parts. If that's not a deal breaker, the npap def has the better finish though the newer wasrs are nicer looking than the older ones and since you're looking for accuracy the npaps non chrome barrel will do better than the chromed wasr barrel, just stay away from corrosive ammo.
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It's hard to beat a good WASR for a lowest common denominator AK. Which is comparable in quality to 50+ million AK-47s in the world!
AKs aren't known for 1MOA accuracy so I'd prefer getting the chrome lined barrel which Yugos don't have. I will admit I'm biased, I handpicked my WASR 10/63 at a gun show 8 years ago and it's never been any trouble. It's bone stock except I cut off the welded muzzle nut, screwed on a flash hider and rubbed Tung oil in the stock. And bought a better sling. On the other hand I hear good things about the NPAP. Even though I have little first hand experience with them I doubt you'd go too wrong with one. |
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That rant aside, both are solid rifles. As long as you stay away from early WASR imports, you shouldn't have any problems.
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I have a WASR, and at just over a thousand rounds, it's right, tight and steel-plate-at-100yd-accurate right from the box. Chrome CHF barrel, too!
I have read lots of good thinks about the N-PAPs also, though. Just for fun, a video of WASR out-of-box accuracy: This is not me, BTW... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSuAPjw2Jgw
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As ridiculous as this sounds the WASR is slightly more desirable than NPAP...maybe it's the CL barrel. Rob Ski from akoul managed to break an NPAP during one of his crazy torture tests, granted several other AKs have failed but NPAP failed a little sooner
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I was in a simular position a few years ago and went went with the WASR, I havent had any problems with it and am still happy with it. The only think I'm looking at changing is the trigger to a G2 to stop the trigger slap on my finger.
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Smee78; what year is your WASR? Mine came with the G2 trigger, as a compliance part. I'm not sure when it became standard.
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I think the non g2 WASR was before they had rails installed
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For a while, I would have chosen the N-PAP over the WASR, but lately a good many reports have been showing up on the internet of egging of the fire control group holes on the N-PAP receiver and mushrooming of the BCG tail due to soft steel.
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Overall, the WASR 10 seems to be the 'AK of AKs'.
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