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January 26, 2015, 09:45 PM | #1 |
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What ammo to break in VP9?
Well I've been getting antsy and ended up paying off my layaway a little early.
It should be here by the end of the week. I've been researching ammo types and thought that some kind of 124gr NATO would be best to use for the first few hundred rounds. I don't mind paying a bit extra but keep in mind this is just range ammo. What do you guys think would be best to use? I've heard bad things about the Winchester NATO in regards to lower specs and wasn't sure what would be best. I understand there's no wrong way to eat a Reese's and don't plan on using reloads but I thought it may be better to break in the VP9 with something decent. |
January 26, 2015, 09:46 PM | #2 |
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I've run almost entirely Freedom Munitions 124gr through mine. Chews it up an begs for more. Good prices, too.
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January 26, 2015, 10:50 PM | #3 |
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Does it need breaking in?
I haven't had to "break in", as in it doesn't work 100% right out of the box with only a good cleaning, any of my handguns. But they all get a 100 round "shake down" to prove to me they are 100% reliable before I carry them. For that I mostly use WWB, and have had no problems. Maybe your HK is more finely machined, and finicky out of the box than my Ruger, Springer, Kahr, Beretta, and Glocks.
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January 26, 2015, 11:24 PM | #4 | |
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I have approximately 2,000 rounds of mixed manufacturers and bullet weights through my VP9 without a problem - including ammunition that caused malfunctions with my P229. There is nothing on a VP9 that needs to be "broken in." Shoot some average quality ammunition through it before you start trying the really cheap Russian ammo just to prove to yourself that it works without problems. I've used: RWS Geco, Fiocchi, WWB, Herters, Federal, ARMSCORP, American Eagle, Prvi Partizan, and Speer Lawman. So far, they've all worked in the VP9. The SIG P229 had repeated failure to extract problems with the ARMSCORP, but ran the remainder of the ammunition on the above list without a problem. |
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January 27, 2015, 12:29 AM | #5 | |
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January 27, 2015, 02:57 AM | #6 |
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Not trying to start an HK war lol.
I've heard the trigger gets better after a few rounds and that it's a good idea to run some decent ammo through it for the first few hundred. I wanted to get it working good before I carry. Plus I have a feeling I'm gonna burn through quite a bit of ammo this weekend so I wanted something reasonably priced but reliability over price. I have been hesitant to get any reloads so idk about Freedomunitions but I see they're like new and to SAAMI specs. |
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I run pretty much 124gr exclusively anyways so I never had an issue, but it's not uncommon. Quote:
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January 27, 2015, 09:38 AM | #8 |
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Not hating on the HK. Nor did I mean finicky in a bad way. Like I said, maybe much more finely machined, with a lot tighter tolerances, making it need to be broken-in with hotter, better quality ammo.
I have heard the same about Sig, with something like 400 rounds being needed for break-in before the run right. I may not personally care for the looks of HK's pistols, but there is no doubt as to their quality.
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January 27, 2015, 09:51 AM | #9 | |
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Figured it would be a lot more. Anyhow I got a 250 count box of the 124gr RN new ammo for $52 very low cost and seems ok so why not right? New customers get free shipping so I saved $13. Pretty awesome, just wish I had the money to buy 1,000 rounds with free shipping lol. |
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January 27, 2015, 10:16 AM | #10 | |
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January 27, 2015, 10:34 AM | #11 |
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So I just bought 250 rounds that's going to potentially ruin my barrel. |
January 27, 2015, 10:38 AM | #12 |
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No. Freedom doesn't sell lead bullet loads....
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January 27, 2015, 10:45 AM | #13 |
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My VP9 eats anything I feed it. 115grain, 124 grain, it doesn't matter. I don't use reloads, or 147 grain ammo. With an HK just clean and lube it out of the box, grab some decent ammo and go shooting. Iv'e never found an HK that needed a break in period. I ran 300 rounds of 124 grain through mine as a reliability check and then put it in my Nightengale Raptor IWB and carried it.
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January 27, 2015, 10:53 AM | #15 |
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I just checked the site and if I'm reading it right they sell one round that is labeled LRN for Lead Round Nose.
I can't find anything on their site that says what the regular RN is made of but I did email customer service asking them. Thanks for pointing this out. I'm very new to shooting, only have one gun and it's and old revolver. I really don't know much about anything in regards to firearm details. Last edited by Maddnotez; January 27, 2015 at 11:01 AM. |
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January 27, 2015, 02:19 PM | #17 |
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That's what they said as well.
Here is the reply: Dear Xxx, The round nose bullets are lead core and fully encapsulated in copper plating. Thank you |
January 27, 2015, 02:48 PM | #18 |
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I think you are overthinking this a little bit. if you believe all the fanboy hype, HKs don't need a break in to begin with. if you aren't sure or intend to carry it and want to prove reliability, any off the shelf ammo will work. if you do intend to carry it, you should put at least 350 rounds through it first, some people recommend as much as 1000 rounds but I think 350 is reasonable. at least 100 rounds of that should be your chosen carry ammo to make sure it will cycle properly.
EDIT: I would not recommend freedom munitions(what my family grudgingly refers to as anarchy ammo). it is manufactured in my area and it floods the market quite bad. I bought 1000 rounds of 5.56 ammo and after 50 rounds I had 3 double charges which locked up my AR tighter than a crab's buttcrack, broke 2 cleaning rods extracting the brass. they took it back and refunded me only for the ammo I didn't shoot. other people are currently reporting blown primers. my experience with 38 special is that it is extremely inconsistent and very low velocity. there is much better reman out there than freedom munitions, Jack ross(if you can find it) or BVAC come to mind. personally with the price of ATK brands reaching as low as $9 a box, I would much rather just use blazer brass or american eagle over reman ammo.
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January 27, 2015, 04:05 PM | #22 |
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I'd just shoot a 100 rounds of new factory ammo through it to make sure everything is good with the gun. Always helps some to hand cycle and dry fire at home too. The VP-9's don't feel like they have a super stiff action.
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January 28, 2015, 10:54 PM | #23 |
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Shoot whatever factory ammo is reasonably available. It all works in the VP9.
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January 28, 2015, 11:11 PM | #24 |
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^ Lol, why does that warrant an angry face?
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January 28, 2015, 11:17 PM | #25 |
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tulammo should break er in good, if it doesn't break it. at least you'll know early if it'll need a trip back to mom
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