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September 27, 2023, 07:12 AM | #1 | |
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California Doubles Sales Tax on Firearms and Bans Carry in Public Places
Several other pieces of legislation were passed. They openly admit the laws are unconstitutional and they are conducting a reconnaissance to see what will fly. This isn't really surprising for California.
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More discussion of several of the laws at the link. https://www.opb.org/article/2023/09/...school-safety/
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September 27, 2023, 07:52 AM | #2 |
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So does this mean that all the gang related shooting and murders that happens in public will completely stop immediately right??
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September 27, 2023, 11:02 AM | #3 |
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Correct. Target is reconsidering closing all of their San Fransisco area stores now and keeping them open as their concerns on violent crime have now all been addressed.
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When govt officials come right out and say they are wasting their time, and our money to see what they can get away with, I'd say its past time for a change, and more than just one...
Seems to me we should be more concerned with the gas coming from the front end of politicians than the gas from the back end of cows...
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I saw an online article yesterday from the LA Times and even they were against the new gun & ammo tax.
Seems they think it is unfair to tax a specific group and use the money for programs meant to "benefit" everyone. Can't say I disagree with the principle there.
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September 27, 2023, 06:21 PM | #7 |
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That bill is pretty large!
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This is another bill that was signed into law. Requires micro stamping by 2028. Also pistols must be drop safe, have a chamber indicator and other qualities.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...202320240SB452 I don't know of any guns for sale that currently micro stamp so it should be entertaining.
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Here is the tax bill:
https://trackbill.com/bill/californi...e-tax/2282304/ Also a long tedious one.
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And, of course, nothing to affect criminals.
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And then there's microstamping...a deceptively simple seeming "solution" to a lot of problems, or so its claimed. Yet another example of politicians being sold a bill of goods, passing laws, and then leaving it up to us to figure out how to comply and shoulder all expenses and effort reaching for an unattainable goal. IF you were around back then, you might recall that the original laws requiring microstamping were shut down because the technology was at the time, proprietary. ONE company owned the rights to the process. Personally I can't think of a better business model than a law requiring everyone to use your product. The word monopoly comes to mind. In order for microstamping to actually work as a benefit in solving crimes, you'd need full registration and a complete functional database of all micro stamped guns, and even that can only track up to the last legal point of sale. And then, there that old school thingy... what were they called again?,,, oh yeah, REVOLVERS!!! I do agree that if anyone should be required to use the tech, it should be the police (and by extension, all armed govt agents). First off, the database would be smaller, and so easier to manage, (and cheaper, hopefully), second if only official govt agents used microstamp guns, that instantly clears them if the brass found at the crime scene isn't stamped, and if it is, directly implicates those individual officers who's guns it came from. THAT sounds like something that might be possible, to me, and it would be at general taxpayer expense, not coming out of the pockets of individual consumers. CA might be the land of dreams, but recent decades have shown too many of those dreams being put into law are pipe dreams and/or nightmares.
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Post 13, it will most certainly survive many challenges in court over the years.
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If microstamping is such a great idea for civilians, there shouldn't be any exceptions for anyone else.
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The militia, or the California State Guard might run afoul of issues as they source their own gear.
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Just take a look at the name, National Guard.
Not State Guard, not state milita, but National Guard. During peacetime, they are under control of the state Gov, but they can and have been Federalized in war. So they are not only equipped with Fed standard (or secondary standard) equipment, but also their training and organization is specifically done to allow smooth integration with full time active Federal forces. The state Governor can activate and call them out, (something they can't do with the Army Reserve), but other than that, (and, I think the state pays the troops) state control is limited. Active duty military based in CA (or any state) can, and will tell the state government to pee up a rope (If they are feeling polite) when it comes to state gun control laws, and many other things, unless specifically ordered to do otherwise by higher Fed authority.
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This is scary and obviously an example of the inmates running the asylum. It seems they are much more sympathetic to criminals than law abiding citizens. What confuses me more is why the Citizens of California continue to vote for them. Sadly, I see a growing lack of knowledge in current events and how Government works her in my state and worry this is slow downward National trend.
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I ask you to look again. Where is the permission slip so all rich people can form security teams with whatever they want? Has to be in there. All gun control has to have an “unless you are rich claus.” These people are rich, important, anti gun and surrounded 24/7 by security.
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