are competing cartridges actually a good thing? - Page 3

Strafer Gott · September 10, 2012, 03:15 PM

I guess I'd better turn my Gallagher in. It's still popular with me, though. It's the only one I can reload without a press. The competition isn't that much better.

**Mike Irwin** · September 11, 2012, 07:48 AM

""Boxer and Berdan didn't invent their centerfire priming systems until the late 1860s."

Yet the .50-70 came out in the MID 1860's...

Think it was 1866, might have been 1867."

There were any number of other centerfire priming systems being developed during and just after the Civil War.

The two that gained the most traction with the US Government were the Martin and the Benet. Of those two, the Benet, developed by an Army officer at the Frankford Arsenal, was adopted as the primary standard starting with the .50-70 cartridge.

The various production and experimental primer types were replaced in Government service with traditional center fire primers in the 1880s.

**Mike Irwin** · September 11, 2012, 07:49 AM

"I guess I'd better turn my Gallagher in. It's still popular with me, though."

Not a complete cartridge, thought, given that the Gallagher used a musket cap fitted on a nipple for ignition.

September 11, 2012, 07:48 AM	#52
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 33,138	""Boxer and Berdan didn't invent their centerfire priming systems until the late 1860s." Yet the .50-70 came out in the MID 1860's... Think it was 1866, might have been 1867." There were any number of other centerfire priming systems being developed during and just after the Civil War. The two that gained the most traction with the US Government were the Martin and the Benet. Of those two, the Benet, developed by an Army officer at the Frankford Arsenal, was adopted as the primary standard starting with the .50-70 cartridge. The various production and experimental primer types were replaced in Government service with traditional center fire primers in the 1880s. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 11, 2012, 07:49 AM	#53
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 33,138	"I guess I'd better turn my Gallagher in. It's still popular with me, though." Not a complete cartridge, thought, given that the Gallagher used a musket cap fitted on a nipple for ignition. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 10, 2012, 03:15 PM	#51
Strafer Gott Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2011 Location: New Mexico Posts: 879	I guess I'd better turn my Gallagher in. It's still popular with me, though. It's the only one I can reload without a press. The competition isn't that much better.