LARGE supply of Large Pistol Primers

Doby45 · February 26, 2009, 11:48 PM

Just trying to keep an eye out, and report any large supplies.

http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|284|737

Casimer · February 27, 2009, 12:00 AM

thanks

klcmschlesinger · February 27, 2009, 09:31 AM

Anyone ever bought from them. Front page of the website says you will be billed before the item is shipped, i've heard that can be a red flag.
Anyone ever use the Wolf primers? If I order 5000 and get them $20 per 1000 as it says, add shipping, haz mat etc. it comes to $27 per 1000. That is exactly what I pay locally, but then I have to pay tax, Winchester primers by the way. I hate to sacrafice quality for 7.5%.

klcmschlesinger · February 27, 2009, 09:48 AM

I read my post and realized I should have just thanked Doby for the info. Sorry to hijack the thread. I am not in an area where primers are in shortage. I have a Grafs location near my work that has cases of primers, so I was more looking at price than availability issues.
Sorry again, and thanks for looking out for us Doby.

Doby45 · February 27, 2009, 10:27 AM

All very relevant questions. My understanding of Widener's is they are a top notch company and are widely supported. I just ordered 3K of the CCI SPP that they had in stock last week. They had something like 354K SPP then.

It is also my understanding that Wolf primers go bang just as reliably as any other. I have not personally used them but that is my understanding, and with the shortages the way they are, any primer is better than an empty hole in your brass where a primer should go.

If they had Wolf SPP right now I would get another 3K.

Ranger325 · February 27, 2009, 12:11 PM

Thanks for the info................

FALPhil · February 27, 2009, 01:34 PM

Widener's is good people. I have spent hundreds of dollars with them over the years. My last order, which was early this month was received 12 days ofter the order was placed.

Alleykat · February 27, 2009, 06:14 PM

I paid $90 per 5k Wolf primers @ Powder Valley. Last time I checked, though, they were out of stock. I bought 30k, so the $20 hazmat wasn't too much of a factor.

RickV · February 27, 2009, 09:40 PM

PV has raised their price on the Wolf primers to the same price as Wideners. I bought 5k SP of Wolf from PV before the price increase. I have had no issues with the Wolfs. What you can do to cut the hazmat and shipping costs is order stuff with some friends. Me and 2 Buds split the hazmat and shipping and it only cost me $13.00.

Clayfish · February 28, 2009, 08:37 AM

I just ordered 2000. Cost me $38 per thousand with shipping and hazmat fees. That's not much more than they are locally (it's very expensive around here) but nobody has them in stock.

bluetopper · February 28, 2009, 11:10 AM

Me and a shooting buddy bought 15K of them last week.

$342 total with shipping and hazmat fee.

CrustyFN · February 28, 2009, 11:26 AM

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Anyone ever use the Wolf primers? If I order 5000 and get them $20 per 1000 as it says, add shipping, haz mat etc. it comes to $27 per 1000. That is exactly what I pay locally, but then I have to pay tax, Winchester primers by the way. I hate to sacrafice quality for 7.5%.

Yes I have used a lot of Wolf primers. I think they compare very close to Win primers. As you already realize it only pays to buy in quantity. I order them 50,000 at a time. I was getting them for $80 per 5,000 but they have gone up to $90. By the time you figure hazmat and shipping it comes out to around $19 per 1,000. Primers local around here go for $40 per 1,000. How do you know you are sacraficing quality with something you have never tried?
Rusty

**Unclenick** · February 28, 2009, 11:48 AM

Everything I've heard about Wolf primers suggests they are very good. More consistent than some domestic brands. Europeans and Scandinavians and Russians all take target shooting very much more seriously than the American public does (their top shots have groupies, if you can imagine that!). Wolf has to compete selling into that market along with Lapua and Norma. So do brands like Sellier & Bellot, which I think explains why we are often surprised by how well that less expensive stuff shoots.

Alleykat · February 28, 2009, 12:23 PM

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I just ordered 2000. Cost me $38 per thousand with shipping and hazmat fees. That's not much more than they are locally (it's very expensive around here) but nobody has them in stock.

That's the highest price, per thousand, I ever heard of for primers. You sure that's not $28 per thousand?

Clayfish · February 28, 2009, 05:07 PM

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That's the highest price, per thousand, I ever heard of for primers. You sure that's not $28 per thousand?

Nope. There's only one gun store in town (meptropolitan area) that sells reloading equipment and they pretty much put any price they want on them.

klcmschlesinger · March 2, 2009, 03:40 PM

I am getting ready to order some of these primers. I am going to buy 5000 for me. Does anyone want to get in on it with me and split the hazmat cost? I work in St. Louis Missouri and live in Illinois just across the river.
I will probably order tomorrow if I don't hear from anyone.

putteral · March 2, 2009, 04:16 PM

I just got 7000 wolf LP before the price went up. Widener's is a good place to order from.

poe2 · March 2, 2009, 09:38 PM

Where are Wolf primers manufactured?

RickV · March 2, 2009, 10:00 PM

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Where are Wolf primers manufactured?

Russia

MrClean · March 2, 2009, 10:04 PM

Good Company! I've bought a lot from them and haven't had any issues. They are swamped right now like most people but you do get your stuff. And I've yet to have them screw anything up.

klcmschlesinger · March 3, 2009, 08:08 AM

I usually use Winchester large pistol primers for all my needs including 44 mag. It says on the box, for standard or magnum applications. What about the Wolf large pistol primers? They also sell Magnum large pistol primers, so I am concerned that I shouldn't use the regular in my 44 mag loads.

warnerwh · March 15, 2009, 11:18 AM

In 98% of my .44 loads I use standard primers. They use Unique and magnum primers the groups are significantly larger with the CCI 350s, same with .357. When using 2400 in heavy loads I also use standard primers in both calibers. When using 296 it's recommended to use magnum primers as this powder can be dangerous of not used as recommended which also includes no light loads below 3% less than max. Btw H110 is the equivalent of W296 and the same rules apply.

There may be other powders that are new I'm unaware of where a magnum pistol primer should be used. The one thing in my experience I've noticed is that the standard primers have given me the better accuracy when other components are exactly the same.

MikeO89 · January 4, 2010, 01:33 AM

Finally I see a place where they are not sold out. Both MidwayUSA and Cabela's is sold out of any primers.

c.j.sikes · January 4, 2010, 01:11 PM

the only problem with wolf large pistol primer was with winchester 45 acp cases, had to work primer pockets to get seated right. cjs

MikeO89 · January 4, 2010, 01:46 PM

Hope they work fine for .44 mag in Super Blackhawk.

February 26, 2009, 11:48 PM	#1
Doby45 Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2009 Location: Powder Springs, GA Posts: 213	LARGE supply of Large Pistol Primers Just trying to keep an eye out, and report any large supplies. http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278\|284\|737

February 27, 2009, 09:31 AM	#3
klcmschlesinger Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2007 Posts: 201	Wideners? Anyone ever bought from them. Front page of the website says you will be billed before the item is shipped, i've heard that can be a red flag. Anyone ever use the Wolf primers? If I order 5000 and get them $20 per 1000 as it says, add shipping, haz mat etc. it comes to $27 per 1000. That is exactly what I pay locally, but then I have to pay tax, Winchester primers by the way. I hate to sacrafice quality for 7.5%. __________________ klcmschlesinger The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote, "a flute with no holes is not a flute, and a donut with no hole, is a danish."

February 27, 2009, 09:48 AM	#4
klcmschlesinger Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2007 Posts: 201	Sorry for not just thanking Doby I read my post and realized I should have just thanked Doby for the info. Sorry to hijack the thread. I am not in an area where primers are in shortage. I have a Grafs location near my work that has cases of primers, so I was more looking at price than availability issues. Sorry again, and thanks for looking out for us Doby. __________________ klcmschlesinger The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote, "a flute with no holes is not a flute, and a donut with no hole, is a danish."

February 27, 2009, 10:27 AM	#5
Doby45 Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2009 Location: Powder Springs, GA Posts: 213	All very relevant questions. My understanding of Widener's is they are a top notch company and are widely supported. I just ordered 3K of the CCI SPP that they had in stock last week. They had something like 354K SPP then. It is also my understanding that Wolf primers go bang just as reliably as any other. I have not personally used them but that is my understanding, and with the shortages the way they are, any primer is better than an empty hole in your brass where a primer should go. If they had Wolf SPP right now I would get another 3K. Last edited by Doby45; February 27, 2009 at 01:01 PM. Reason: Spelling

February 27, 2009, 12:11 PM	#6
Ranger325 Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2005 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 428	Thanks for the info................ __________________ Ranger325 "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. " George Orwell

February 27, 2009, 12:00 AM	#2
Casimer Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2007 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 1,918	thanks

February 27, 2009, 01:34 PM	#7
FALPhil Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2007 Location: Racoon City Posts: 934	Widener's is good people. I have spent hundreds of dollars with them over the years. My last order, which was early this month was received 12 days ofter the order was placed.

February 27, 2009, 06:14 PM	#8
Alleykat Junior member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 3,668	I paid $90 per 5k Wolf primers @ Powder Valley. Last time I checked, though, they were out of stock. I bought 30k, so the $20 hazmat wasn't too much of a factor.

February 27, 2009, 09:40 PM	#9
RickV Senior Member Join Date: November 7, 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 172	PV has raised their price on the Wolf primers to the same price as Wideners. I bought 5k SP of Wolf from PV before the price increase. I have had no issues with the Wolfs. What you can do to cut the hazmat and shipping costs is order stuff with some friends. Me and 2 Buds split the hazmat and shipping and it only cost me $13.00.

February 28, 2009, 08:37 AM	#10
Clayfish Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2005 Location: Valdosta, GA Posts: 953	I just ordered 2000. Cost me $38 per thousand with shipping and hazmat fees. That's not much more than they are locally (it's very expensive around here) but nobody has them in stock.

February 28, 2009, 11:10 AM	#11
bluetopper Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2005 Location: Northeast TX Posts: 1,197	Me and a shooting buddy bought 15K of them last week. $342 total with shipping and hazmat fee. Last edited by bluetopper; February 28, 2009 at 11:16 AM.

February 28, 2009, 11:48 AM	#13
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	Everything I've heard about Wolf primers suggests they are very good. More consistent than some domestic brands. Europeans and Scandinavians and Russians all take target shooting very much more seriously than the American public does (their top shots have groupies, if you can imagine that!). Wolf has to compete selling into that market along with Lapua and Norma. So do brands like Sellier & Bellot, which I think explains why we are often surprised by how well that less expensive stuff shoots. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

March 2, 2009, 03:40 PM	#16
klcmschlesinger Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2007 Posts: 201	Anyone want to go in on some? I am getting ready to order some of these primers. I am going to buy 5000 for me. Does anyone want to get in on it with me and split the hazmat cost? I work in St. Louis Missouri and live in Illinois just across the river. I will probably order tomorrow if I don't hear from anyone. __________________ klcmschlesinger The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote, "a flute with no holes is not a flute, and a donut with no hole, is a danish."

March 2, 2009, 04:16 PM	#17
putteral Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2008 Location: Homosassa,Florida Posts: 206	I just got 7000 wolf LP before the price went up. Widener's is a good place to order from.

March 2, 2009, 09:38 PM	#18
poe2 Member Join Date: June 6, 2004 Location: Foothills of The Great Smoky Mountains Posts: 31	Where are Wolf primers manufactured? __________________ ...east wind...rain...

March 2, 2009, 10:04 PM	#20
MrClean Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2008 Location: State of Confusion Posts: 336	Good Company! I've bought a lot from them and haven't had any issues. They are swamped right now like most people but you do get your stuff. And I've yet to have them screw anything up. __________________ I'm like a Fat Kid on a Playground..... " I ain't Playin' " Lifetime NRA, USPSA, HCSO, CRS Club

March 3, 2009, 08:08 AM	#21
klcmschlesinger Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2007 Posts: 201	Quick question I usually use Winchester large pistol primers for all my needs including 44 mag. It says on the box, for standard or magnum applications. What about the Wolf large pistol primers? They also sell Magnum large pistol primers, so I am concerned that I shouldn't use the regular in my 44 mag loads. __________________ klcmschlesinger The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote, "a flute with no holes is not a flute, and a donut with no hole, is a danish."

March 15, 2009, 11:18 AM	#22
warnerwh Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2009 Posts: 329	In 98% of my .44 loads I use standard primers. They use Unique and magnum primers the groups are significantly larger with the CCI 350s, same with .357. When using 2400 in heavy loads I also use standard primers in both calibers. When using 296 it's recommended to use magnum primers as this powder can be dangerous of not used as recommended which also includes no light loads below 3% less than max. Btw H110 is the equivalent of W296 and the same rules apply. There may be other powders that are new I'm unaware of where a magnum pistol primer should be used. The one thing in my experience I've noticed is that the standard primers have given me the better accuracy when other components are exactly the same. __________________ Portland, Or

January 4, 2010, 01:33 AM	#23
MikeO89 Member Join Date: December 31, 2009 Posts: 46	Finally I see a place where they are not sold out. Both MidwayUSA and Cabela's is sold out of any primers.

January 4, 2010, 01:11 PM	#24
c.j.sikes Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2006 Location: marlow okla Posts: 227	wolf primers the only problem with wolf large pistol primer was with winchester 45 acp cases, had to work primer pockets to get seated right. cjs

January 4, 2010, 01:46 PM	#25
MikeO89 Member Join Date: December 31, 2009 Posts: 46	Hope they work fine for .44 mag in Super Blackhawk.