First time in years I broke down the cost

shoptroll · February 12, 2012, 06:46 PM

For the first time in a long time I decided to break down the cost of loading a particular round (.45 ACP practice loads).

500 230 grain cast lead roundnose bullets $56.10
500 CCI small pistol primers $12.48
5 grains of Bullseye powder per round $6.05
Re-use saved cases
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$74.63
+ 6% PA sales tax
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$79.11 or $7.91 per 50 round box.

Kevin Rohrer · February 12, 2012, 06:52 PM

Shop around for your components and you can do much better than that. I got my price down to $5.40 for 50-rounds.

2rott · February 12, 2012, 07:22 PM

I get the same approx. $5.40 per 50 rounds. You're high on bullets & i think you made a big mistake on your powder calculation.

Scimmia · February 12, 2012, 07:26 PM

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500 230 grain cast lead roundnose bullets $56.10

I hope that's just ordering one box and paying really high shipping. That's getting into jacketed bullet price range.

ScottRiqui · February 12, 2012, 07:31 PM

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I get the same approx. $5.40 per 50 rounds. You're high on bullets & i think you made a big mistake on your powder calculation.

Agree that the bullet cost is a bit high unless that includes shipping on a small order. The powder measurement isn't far off - at $6.05 per 500, that's $16.94 per pound, which is pretty reasonable for a 1-lb can plus a little shipping.

2rott · February 12, 2012, 07:44 PM

You're correct ScottRiqui. I miscalculated the powder.

poline · February 12, 2012, 08:21 PM

Where is this info found, to calculate the powder price per rd?

PawPaw · February 12, 2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by poline

Where is this info found, to calculate the powder price per rd?

On the price-tag on the powder. How much did you pay for it? Divide by 7000 to get price per grain. Multiply by grains per round and you've got your cost per round.

3kgt2nv · February 12, 2012, 08:36 PM

there are 7000 grains in a pound so
7000/ powder per round
cost / how many rounds per pound

for example

185 gr semi wad cutter with 3.5gr bullseye

$17.99/pound / 2000

cost per round for powder is .008995

this is with the bullseye i bought yesterday on sale at cabelas

shoptroll · February 12, 2012, 08:36 PM

I bought all the components at local shops. Yeah, I coulda ordered the stuff off the net but I'm trying to help the local boys. I order a lot of different things off the net and save quite a bit of money so I don't mind paying a little more on the homefront now and then. I also don't shoot enough to justify some of the bulk purchases that would really bring the cost down. I also didn't find the bullets that I wanted until the fourth shop that I hit on Saturday cause everybody else was sold out. It was snowing and there wasn't anything going on so I went gun shop hopping. It's still half the price of the Federal 230 gr. FMJ's that were on sale for $15.95 per box and I had a good time driving around, looking at guns, and B.S.ing with the folks. I had fun and they made a few bucks. Works for everybody.

P.S. Powder was $16.95 per pound.

ex_isp · February 12, 2012, 08:37 PM

Here's a great cost calculator!!!

http://www.handloads.com/calc/loadingCosts.asp

ScottRiqui · February 12, 2012, 08:37 PM

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Where is this info found, to calculate the powder price per rd?

There are probably calculators online, but it's pretty simple math.

There are 7000 grains per pound, and it helps to convert your prices from dollars to pennies.

Let's say your load involves 6 grains of a powder that costs $14.78 per pound. Divide 1478 pennies by 7000 grains to get 0.2111 cents per grain. Multiply that by the six grains that your load requires to get 1.27 cents per load.

EDIT: Or you could use the excellent calculator from the previous post.

poline · February 12, 2012, 08:40 PM

THANK YOU

3kgt2nv · February 12, 2012, 08:40 PM

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Let's say your load involves 6 grains of a powder that costs $14.78 per pound. Divide 1478 pennies by 7000 grains to get 0.2111 cents per grain. Multiply that by the six grains that your load requires to get 1.27 cents per load.

you should have said .002111 other wise he paid $1.27 per shot in powder.

ScottRiqui · February 12, 2012, 08:43 PM

I think I got it right - it's 0.2111 cents per grain.

3kgt2nv · February 12, 2012, 08:55 PM

yeap your right. didnt think about that. saw the number and made an ass out of myself

shoptroll · February 12, 2012, 09:00 PM

$16.95 per pound
divide by 7000 grains
= $.0024 per grain
x 5 grains per round
=$.012 per round
x 500 rounds
=$6.05 for 500 rounds
I rounded off the decimal points for this post....hence the nickle difference in the math for the final tally.

The shops around here get their bulk cast bullets from a local company called Precision Cast Bullets out of Lebanon, PA. The shop with the best price was $50.95 for 500 but he was out so I ran to a hole in the wall gunshop in the middle of nowhere called Enck's Gun Barn. It's basicly a small barn next to his house and it's converted into a shop. He has a little bit of everything and he had what I wanted and I was there so I threw him some business. Call me silly but it feels good to throw the little guy a bone instead of always hitting the internet wharehouses and big box retailers.

February 12, 2012, 06:46 PM	#1
shoptroll Member Join Date: January 2, 2012 Location: Elizabethtown, Pa Posts: 60	First time in years I broke down the cost For the first time in a long time I decided to break down the cost of loading a particular round (.45 ACP practice loads). 500 230 grain cast lead roundnose bullets $56.10 500 CCI small pistol primers $12.48 5 grains of Bullseye powder per round $6.05 Re-use saved cases _______________________ $74.63 + 6% PA sales tax ______________________ $79.11 or $7.91 per 50 round box.

February 12, 2012, 06:52 PM	#2
Kevin Rohrer Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2010 Location: Medina, Ohio Posts: 1,049	Shop around for your components and you can do much better than that. I got my price down to $5.40 for 50-rounds. __________________ Member: Orange Gunsite Family, NRA--Life, ARTCA, and American Legion. Caveat Emptor: Cavery Grips/AmericanGripz/Prestige Grips/Stealth Grips from Clayton, NC. He is a scammer

February 12, 2012, 08:37 PM	#11
ex_isp Member Join Date: May 5, 2011 Location: Az Posts: 28	Here's a great cost calculator!!! http://www.handloads.com/calc/loadingCosts.asp __________________ Not having Windows on your computer is like not having bricks tied to your dogs collar. The shin bone is a device for finding furniture in a dark room.

February 12, 2012, 07:22 PM	#3
2rott Member Join Date: December 11, 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 96	I get the same approx. $5.40 per 50 rounds. You're high on bullets & i think you made a big mistake on your powder calculation.

February 12, 2012, 07:44 PM	#6
2rott Member Join Date: December 11, 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 96	You're correct ScottRiqui. I miscalculated the powder.

February 12, 2012, 08:21 PM	#7
poline Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2009 Location: Richmond,Va Posts: 292	Where is this info found, to calculate the powder price per rd?

February 12, 2012, 08:36 PM	#9
3kgt2nv Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: hudson valley NY Posts: 517	there are 7000 grains in a pound so 7000/ powder per round cost / how many rounds per pound for example 185 gr semi wad cutter with 3.5gr bullseye $17.99/pound / 2000 cost per round for powder is .008995 this is with the bullseye i bought yesterday on sale at cabelas

February 12, 2012, 08:40 PM	#13
poline Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2009 Location: Richmond,Va Posts: 292	THANK YOU

February 12, 2012, 08:43 PM	#15
ScottRiqui Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2010 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 2,905	I think I got it right - it's 0.2111 cents per grain.

February 12, 2012, 08:55 PM	#16
3kgt2nv Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: hudson valley NY Posts: 517	yeap your right. didnt think about that. saw the number and made an ass out of myself

February 12, 2012, 09:00 PM	#17
shoptroll Member Join Date: January 2, 2012 Location: Elizabethtown, Pa Posts: 60	$16.95 per pound divide by 7000 grains = $.0024 per grain x 5 grains per round =$.012 per round x 500 rounds =$6.05 for 500 rounds I rounded off the decimal points for this post....hence the nickle difference in the math for the final tally. The shops around here get their bulk cast bullets from a local company called Precision Cast Bullets out of Lebanon, PA. The shop with the best price was $50.95 for 500 but he was out so I ran to a hole in the wall gunshop in the middle of nowhere called Enck's Gun Barn. It's basicly a small barn next to his house and it's converted into a shop. He has a little bit of everything and he had what I wanted and I was there so I threw him some business. Call me silly but it feels good to throw the little guy a bone instead of always hitting the internet wharehouses and big box retailers.