can someone help me identify this rifle?

riverchic2005 · March 14, 2006, 02:42 PM

I don't know hardly anything about guns.

My dad has an old gun that has been passed down through our family, but we haven't been able to find out anything on it. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

I do not see a "brand" name on it, just a series of numbers. They include:
NA 933, No. HA 933 (with a D under the "3"s), 1938, and above 1938, it has a star with what looks like an arrow inside of it.

As I said, any information on this rifle would be greatly appreciated. My dad works from 6:30 in the mornings and gets off late at night. I volunteered to try and find info on it.

**Mike Irwin** · March 14, 2006, 03:34 PM

The star inside the arrow is a BIG indicator that it's a Soviet-made rifle, at the Izhvesk (sp?) arsenal.

Is it a bolt action or semi-auto?

riverchic2005 · March 15, 2006, 01:37 PM

I believe it is bolt-action.

Like I mentioned before, I know very little about guns.

**Mike Irwin** · March 15, 2006, 01:39 PM

OK, does it look anything like what you see in the pictures here:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...nt&sa=N&tab=wi

Is there any chance of you taking some pictures and posting them?

riverchic2005 · March 15, 2006, 02:14 PM

It does look a great deal like the picture shown on M1895 Mosin-Nagant with the site behun8.srv.hu under it.

It resembles the bottom one the most, except that ours isn't shiny at all.

BonesofGa. · April 5, 2006, 05:13 PM

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the star with the arrow was Tula manufacture.

**Mike Irwin** · April 6, 2006, 02:48 PM

Hum...

I thought a straight star was Tula, and the star/arrow was the other one.

I may be wrong, though.

James K · April 7, 2006, 04:45 PM

FWIW, I think Tula used the star and arrow or sometimes just the star. Izhevsk used the bow and arrow up to 1928 and the arrow in a triangle after that. Sestoretsk used just an arrow.

Tula now makes civilian arms under the name Tulski Oruzheiny Zavod (TOZ) or Tula Arms Works; Izhevsk uses IZHMASH as a trade name.

Jim

March 14, 2006, 02:42 PM	#1
riverchic2005 Junior Member Join Date: March 14, 2006 Location: Blue Ridge, Georgia, U.S.A. Posts: 7	can someone help me identify this rifle? I don't know hardly anything about guns. My dad has an old gun that has been passed down through our family, but we haven't been able to find out anything on it. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I do not see a "brand" name on it, just a series of numbers. They include: NA 933, No. HA 933 (with a D under the "3"s), 1938, and above 1938, it has a star with what looks like an arrow inside of it. As I said, any information on this rifle would be greatly appreciated. My dad works from 6:30 in the mornings and gets off late at night. I volunteered to try and find info on it.

March 14, 2006, 03:34 PM	#2
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	The star inside the arrow is a BIG indicator that it's a Soviet-made rifle, at the Izhvesk (sp?) arsenal. Is it a bolt action or semi-auto? __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

March 15, 2006, 01:39 PM	#4
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	OK, does it look anything like what you see in the pictures here: http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...nt&sa=N&tab=wi Is there any chance of you taking some pictures and posting them? __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

April 6, 2006, 02:48 PM	#7
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Hum... I thought a straight star was Tula, and the star/arrow was the other one. I may be wrong, though. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

March 15, 2006, 01:37 PM	#3
riverchic2005 Junior Member Join Date: March 14, 2006 Location: Blue Ridge, Georgia, U.S.A. Posts: 7	I believe it is bolt-action. Like I mentioned before, I know very little about guns.

March 15, 2006, 02:14 PM	#5
riverchic2005 Junior Member Join Date: March 14, 2006 Location: Blue Ridge, Georgia, U.S.A. Posts: 7	It does look a great deal like the picture shown on M1895 Mosin-Nagant with the site behun8.srv.hu under it. It resembles the bottom one the most, except that ours isn't shiny at all.

April 5, 2006, 05:13 PM	#6
BonesofGa. Member Join Date: January 20, 2001 Posts: 64	Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the star with the arrow was Tula manufacture.

April 7, 2006, 04:45 PM	#8
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	FWIW, I think Tula used the star and arrow or sometimes just the star. Izhevsk used the bow and arrow up to 1928 and the arrow in a triangle after that. Sestoretsk used just an arrow. Tula now makes civilian arms under the name Tulski Oruzheiny Zavod (TOZ) or Tula Arms Works; Izhevsk uses IZHMASH as a trade name. Jim