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Old January 17, 2016, 09:53 AM   #1
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My 58 Musket

I don't think they make these anymore. It's a Euroarms 58 cal. Musketoon.
They sure are accurate. Anybody have one like it?








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Old January 17, 2016, 02:02 PM   #2
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I have a Parker Hale musketoon but not one with a rear sight like yours. That's an amazing sight. Where did you get it?
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Old January 17, 2016, 04:19 PM   #3
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I got it from a guy in Australia . It is a Peabody Martini cadet sight. I don't
use the musket anymore. Might put it up for sale. If I do, I will put it in the
For Sale section.
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Old January 17, 2016, 04:26 PM   #4
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Excellent short range brush gun for the likes of hog, deer, or Indians!
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Old January 17, 2016, 09:00 PM   #5
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Thanks.
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Old January 18, 2016, 01:29 AM   #6
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http://TheFiringLine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=567694 see post #16

[This website won't let me repost a photo that has been posted before on this site. I don't get it.]
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Old January 18, 2016, 09:20 AM   #7
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It's all in how you include it Hellgate!

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Old January 18, 2016, 10:48 AM   #8
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GARY,

I've also got a Parker Hale musketoon (original PH back from `75/`76)** and have both the PH thick-skirt and Lyman thin skirt OS Minnies.

Out of curiosity, which bullet does yours prefer ?




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Old January 18, 2016, 11:03 AM   #9
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I use the PH thick skirt. It's the only mould I have for the three Parker Hales (Rifle, short rifle and musketoon). They shoot well with it.
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Old January 18, 2016, 02:07 PM   #10
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I've heard the musketoons weren't used during the ACW.

Any truth to that?
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Old January 18, 2016, 04:27 PM   #11
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No truth to it at all.
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Old January 18, 2016, 06:01 PM   #12
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BritishMuzzleloaders

The guy in these videos uses paperpatched bullets in the Enfield. He's done a lot of work perfecting cartidge making

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNIt8RvGP5M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeDiyhotvJg

He's got a lot of other videos on the subject
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Old January 18, 2016, 06:47 PM   #13
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They said no musketoons were imported. Enfield. It's farby to use one they say.
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Old January 18, 2016, 09:38 PM   #14
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From The Library of Congress Civil War Desk Reference
By Margaret E. Wagner, Gary W. Gallagher, James M. McPherson

Pattern 1856 Enfield Artillery Musketoon 500 were imported by the North significant numbers by the South. Pattern 1858 Enfield Cavalry Carbine 200 were purchased by the North, significant numbers by the South.
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Old January 18, 2016, 11:36 PM   #15
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Wow, thank Hawg.

It appears they were wrong. I think the Musketoons are soooo neat, so short yet powerful and accurate. It's like a 19th century Mosin M44!
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Old January 19, 2016, 01:23 AM   #16
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It appears they were wrong. I think the Musketoons are soooo neat, so short yet powerful and accurate. It's like a 19th century Mosin M44!
No comparison, the Enfield is a much better weapon.
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Old January 19, 2016, 02:42 PM   #17
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^^^^^ Hardly ^^^^^
Just my 2ยข ...owning both.
Springfield's a far superior field weapon.
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Old January 19, 2016, 05:16 PM   #18
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Depending on where the Enfield was made, it can be a better weapon. Some springs were not properly heat treated and were too brittle and prone to breakage. "Enfield" made in Belgium could be pretty bad and in that case, i'd rather have a Springfield. However, if the Enfield was made to British standards, I'll take that instead.
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Old January 19, 2016, 10:04 PM   #19
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Yeah they subcontracted out the Enfield to various makers to fill the ACW demand.

Some were better than others, by a lot.
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Old January 20, 2016, 12:23 AM   #20
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Mehavey, don't pay me no nevermind. I just have an extreme aversion to Mosins.
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Old January 20, 2016, 06:32 AM   #21
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HAWG, if we didn't all have strong opinions, this Forum woukd be dull indeed.
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Old January 20, 2016, 08:11 AM   #22
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Old January 20, 2016, 08:20 PM   #23
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I love my Mosins, but I love my black powders better!!
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Old February 9, 2016, 06:34 PM   #24
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I have the PH that I bought new in '73. Also my first BP rifle and I still have and shoot it. The blade front and "V" rear sight just didn't work for me so I did this without sacrificing something that couldn't be reversed. Although I don't intend to.

Ground the front blade down to the block. Drilled and tapped for a post which can be easily be replaced with a different height. Channeled the block to accept a hood.

Squared the rear "V" to accept the post.

Shortly thereafter, a friend and myself shot a 5 shot, 2 1/2" group at 75 yards. I shot first and we alternated. We did not attempt to improve on it.



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