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December 8, 2012, 11:04 PM | #1 |
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Glock 25 and 28 LEO only.
Can anyone tell me why this is so?
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December 8, 2012, 11:32 PM | #2 |
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Because government has import restrictions.......... The Glock 25/28 doesn't meet those.
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December 8, 2012, 11:44 PM | #3 |
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The ATF has a system of points to determine the eligibility of a weapon for import. A certain number of points are given to each feature that is deemed to make a firearm more "sporting." There's a chart depicting it here.
Glocks barely make the cut in standard service calibers. The .380 chambering doesn't. For what it's worth, the prohibited models aren't any smaller than their 9mm cousins, so their market viability is questionable.
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Extensively discussed here:
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=480175 Quote:
The G25 and G28 basically exist as specialty products for sale in countries that prohibit civilian ownership of pistols in so-called "military" calibers.
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OK, thank you!
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I didn't click the linked thread. There's a chance I posted in it...
For whatever they ARE or ARE NOT, for whatever they CAN or CANNOT do, I still say: If it says Glock on it, there's money to be made on it. People will buy it. If they could find a way to import a .380 Auto Glock, or simply drag enough of the tooling stateside to just build them in Smyrna, they would sell the ever-lovin' hell out of them.
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Just for clarification. ANYONE who can legally own a handgun in the U.S. can own a Glock 25 or Glock 28. The problem is that they can't be imported except by military/LE. Once they're legally in the country, they are no different, legally speaking, than any other handgun.
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December 9, 2012, 11:35 PM | #8 |
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I really think someone should exercise the "LEO gets to do stuff that the BATFE and other eieieo Feds won't let normal people do" and get a few of these here on North America, and then forward them to some civilians.
I'd like to see what a handful of these end up going for when they start changing hands. Talk about a weird market - realistically, they truly offer nothing over the ones that are easily available. Does anyone think they wouldn't sell for big bucks? (comparatively, I mean)
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IMHO......just by virtue of the fact that they're only "commercially" available to a smaller segment of the population in limited numbers, I'd would think that would make the value of those that become available "privately" higher. If nothing else, just as a collectible.
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Glock is now manufacturing guns here in America as well as assembling them. I had my hands on a "Made in the USA" Model 19 the other day. I wonder if the 380 models would be ones they would consider manufacturing here as well. They wouldn't be subject to import restrictions.
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That BATFE points system is absolutely random and arbitrary...and I'm guessing it's legality is in a grey area; free trade laws and all that.
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Although I'm an admitted member of the unofficial TFL "Not-So-Subcompact Small .380 Service Pistol Fan Club" (e.g. Beretta 84, Browning BDA .380, & CZ 83), I'll be the first to tell you that the American market potential for such pistols is limited. For the most part, Glock does not play the collector market, and is unlikely to jump through hoops to sell the G25 & G28 here.
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The G17L, G34, and G35 are low-volume niche products by Glock standards, but they're also so-called "halo" products that can be sold for higher prices than their standard lineup, yet have a high degree of parts commonality and probably cost only a little more to manufacture. To bring the G25 & G28 here, Glock would either have to substantially modify the design to meet ATF importation criteria and retool an Austrian plant, or add new tooling to their American plant. Either strategy would require a big investment to sell pistols with relatively little American market potential. A theoretical American-built LCP/P3AT-type "G40" would probably outsell either the G25 or G28 by a 5:1 ratio, and would probably make the company more money, even if they had to cut their margins substantially to approach the LCP/P3AT price point.
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Seems like some some police force could bring in some change arming with the 380 as a back-up gun and then selling them on gunbroker after a reasonable service life of one year.
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