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Old May 27, 2009, 11:59 AM   #1
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Armed Citizen: Oklahoma City homeowner shoots, kills intruder.

Police say 41-year-old Scott Henson called officers about 11:30 a.m. Tuesday and said he had shot and killed a man in his southwest Oklahoma City home.

Sgt. Gary Knight says Henson told officers when he arrived at his home he saw a strange pickup in front of the house. Knight says Henson then found an intruder hiding inside the home and after a brief struggle the intruder was shot and killed.
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Old May 27, 2009, 12:03 PM   #2
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thanks for the update.

awaiting the the first "now why did he go in the house?" post.

or, "why didn't he call 911?" from his driveway post.

both of which can be considered.

glad the homeowner is safe.
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Old May 27, 2009, 12:16 PM   #3
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http://newsok.com/slain-oklahoma-cit...rticle/3372932

They say the intruder is ID'd and that there was a second one as well.

http://www.koco.com/news/19569253/detail.html

Says he has a concealed carry permit, not that he needs one at home, but maybe that is how he was able to produce his gun for the event as potentially it was being carried on his person when he came home?

http://newsok.com/intruder-shot-dead...rticle/3372883
The dead intruder was not known to the homeowners.
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Old May 27, 2009, 12:24 PM   #4
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Seeing a new car in front of your house isn't necessarily a cause to call 911, nor is it a reason not to enter.
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Old May 27, 2009, 12:26 PM   #5
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Seeing a new car in front of your house isn't necessarily a cause to call 911, nor is it a reason not to enter.
If there a car in front of my house that I am not familiar with and there are signs of forced entry, which there would have to be since there is no way into my house except force or a key, it is most certainly cause to call 911. I'd be calling 911 and waiting outside.... behind some cover.
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Old May 27, 2009, 12:26 PM   #6
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awaiting the the first "now why did he go in the house?" post.

or, "why didn't he call 911?" from his driveway post
Because it was his house?


As much as I hate people parking in front of my house, I wouldn't call 911 absent a kicked in door or broken window.
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Old May 27, 2009, 12:38 PM   #7
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my comment was due to the fact that with some stories, folks
sometimes immediately question what the homeowner did or didn't do.

I if saw a strange truck in my driveway and there was no scheduled
work or anything being done, I would probably investigate the perimeter
of the house first and my CCW would be present.

Then make a decision whether to wait outside and consider other options.

I would get the make/model and license number and based on previous
experience, I would probably report a suspicious vehicle and let an officer come out and investigate.
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Old May 27, 2009, 12:38 PM   #8
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The street parking in front of some houses (city streets) could mean that unknown cars would be parked there from time to time. Happens to me all the time. If it was in the driveway, I would assume a roommates friend, but would keep up my awareness.

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I wouldn't call 911 absent a kicked in door or broken window.
I agree for my situation, though not for everyones situation. The guy who lives in the middle of nowhere might think differently.
Also, the one time my house was broken into, it was because a roommate left a window unlocked when he moved his stuff in through it. There were no signs of forced entry into the house. Luckily I was not there.
Just something to think about.
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Old May 28, 2009, 05:55 PM   #9
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the majority of houses in my neighborhood all have very short driveways and if more than a couple cars are present somewhere, you almost have to park in front of someone's house. i have come home multiple times to find cars in front of my house, usually from the house across the street. i see no reason to call 911 or to not go into my house b/c of it. I do, however, usually untuck my CCW (i carry IWB under a shirt or two-weather depending) and enter the house rather carefully.

Glad the homeowner is ok
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Old May 28, 2009, 06:06 PM   #10
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When I come home there is about a 50% chance there will be an unknown vehicle parked in front of my house. When it's in my driveway, it really torques me off.
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Old May 28, 2009, 09:25 PM   #11
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If you read the linked articles and watch the vid you can see that the vehicle was all the way up his driveway near the front entrance. It's positioning would have put my hackles up.

Personally I don't agree with his choice to go in the house if he thought a buglar was inside, but he may have reasons. Perhaps he was unaware and simply thought his wife had company, or he maybe he was aware and was concerned that it was an intruder and that his wife might be home, etc.

A call to the police would have been wise either way though, it could have ended up with him laying on the floor bleeding out and nobody even aware he was there or needed help.
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Old May 29, 2009, 10:00 PM   #12
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I would check to see if the keys were in the vehicle and remove them, if I thought the owner was in my house, and by all means call 911.
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Old May 29, 2009, 10:29 PM   #13
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If I come home and find a strange vehicle in my driveway, my first thought is not going to be to call 911 until I have done a little investigation. If upon investigation, I find signs of forced entry then yes and I will wait outside until the cops arrive. However, if robbers exit, it's on.
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