CC and water sports

simonrichter · July 1, 2015, 04:13 AM

It might appear a funny question to you, but since I come from a country where one can't carry firearms, I'm curious: As far as I get it from this forum and others, many of you folks advocate that IF you carry, it (logically) makes most sense "24/7" because you would not know if and when a certain situation may occur.

But what do you do when you go say swimming or do other water sport activities?

I know the question may seem a little quaint, yet nowadays it does have kind of a realistic background in the light of the recent act of terrorism on a Tunisian touristic beach...

dyl · July 1, 2015, 11:50 AM

I bet you've found that it varies from person to person. The person who first introduced me to shooting now carries less frequently even when traveling - unsure why. Changes in mindset and priorities I suppose.

When I go swimming (indoor) I don't carry in the pool, I leave it in the locker.
Last time I went to the beach I carried but did not go swimming. I did a little wading but the gun (and my phone) only got a little wet through my shorts.

I don't carry when I know I will be submerged but I try to carry as far as I can secure the firearm. Swimwear is even more prohibitive to carrying than street clothes and it seems like a limited market for any manufacturer to get into.

ChuckS · July 1, 2015, 12:56 PM

One way is to use a small dry box, such as a Pelican.

It keeps it dry and sand free. I have also carried in a IWB holster when canoeing or kayaking, but I am confident enough in my (and my partners) abilities to not overturn.

I have also used a fanny pack (bum bag).

Water doesn't bother me as much as the sand does. I try and avoid getting sand on/in my pistol.

AK103K · July 1, 2015, 06:21 PM

I dont swim (intentionally) with mine, but its not that big a deal if they should get a dunk.

My water sports these days are canoe's and kayak's, and I have gone in a few times wearing my gun(s), its just the nature of the beast. I do wear a lanyard while in a boat, as the rivers tend to take anything you have on you, if its not attached to you.

James K · July 1, 2015, 06:48 PM

One way to waterproof a handgun is to use a simple "zip lock" bag. They are watertight when sealed and one can, if necessary, operate the gun through the plastic. It might interfere with the slide or hammer movement, but with many guns will allow at least one shot.

Jim

mxsailor803 · July 1, 2015, 07:45 PM

I usually carry OWB while on the river fishing. SC and FL gamewardens have never given me a hard since most of my loads were shotshells (snakes). They would ask if I had a permit and I do but never had to pull it out and show it. I did get submerged last trip and I sprayed the dickens out of with WD40 until I could get home and do a proper tear down with CLP.

Nathan · July 1, 2015, 08:09 PM

Honestly, most handguns can be fully submerged. I would have no trouble submerging my Kahr 380, cleaning and reoiling later.

Most modern guns can handle it fine.

In a swimming pool, I don't want the printing.

Glockstar .40 · July 2, 2015, 01:57 AM

I avoided a water balloon fight on Sunday because I was cc'n and had a white shirt on

simonrichter · July 2, 2015, 04:24 PM

...but I reckon salt water is quite another story...? when I see what it does to metal on boats or beach constructions, it sure isn't what you want your gun to come in touch with...?

Dragline45 · July 2, 2015, 04:43 PM

There are certain times where I forgo carrying so I can enjoy myself, swimming is one of them. Life is too short to not enjoy myself here and there just so I can carry 24/7. If terrorists decide to shoot up the beach I am on, so be it, I take far more risk driving to the beach than I do choosing not to carry at the beach.

skizzums · July 2, 2015, 04:58 PM

I carry when I swim, I just put it in my little towel bag when I actually go in the water. I never really thought about. I wouldn't ever actually go "swimming" with a gun, gotta draw a line somewhere...like the bathtub and shower.

well.......maybe not

James K · July 2, 2015, 05:00 PM

James Bond epics aside, I have never heard of anyone being attacked while swimming by anything a handgun would stop. Maybe a .500 S&W would discourage a great white but I am pretty sure anything smaller would just make him mad.

Jim

AK103K · July 2, 2015, 05:02 PM

Quote:

...but I reckon salt water is quite another story...? when I see what it does to metal on boats or beach constructions, it sure isn't what you want your gun to come in touch with...?

That depends on a couple of things. Type of the guns metal and/or finish, your personal gun hygiene, and how long after you deal with it.

If your out for the day, its really not a big deal, if you take care of it when you get home. If youre out for an extended period of time, without the luxuries of home, fresh, or as fresh as you can find water to flush with, and a small can of WD40 will usually get you through.

colbad · July 2, 2015, 05:04 PM

I switch to a spear gun.

simonrichter · July 2, 2015, 05:33 PM

Another thought: Would a gun actually work when there is water in the barrel?

peggysue · July 2, 2015, 05:35 PM

Front carry when I wear my speedo.

AK103K · July 2, 2015, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Another thought: Would a gun actually work when there is water in the barrel?

https://youtu.be/502KryEguA0

I would have thought you knew the answer to that. Nudge, nudge, wink wink.

Arizona Fusilier · July 2, 2015, 07:04 PM

When I am around the water, a stainless revolver is in order, my S&W 686, 649, or 629.

But actually in the water? Naaaw, I'm paranoid, but not that paranoid!

Ricklin · July 2, 2015, 07:15 PM

THose of us who play with blackpowder are not afraid to get guns good and wet.

Standard cleanup for blackpowder weapons involves copious quantities of good old soap and water.

The key is near boiling water for the final rinse, the heat will drive the moisture from the metal very quickly. Follow with oil and you are golden.

peggysue · July 3, 2015, 05:02 AM

simonrichter · July 3, 2015, 05:16 AM

addendum: Actually I did not suppose one would actually take a gun into the water because it might be needed THERE.
The problem I was referring to is that when you take a gun to the beach, you can hardly just leave it under your blanket while in the water...

simonrichter · August 13, 2015, 03:12 PM

somewhere in the last third of this article, the issue of water sports and guns is addressed...

tipoc · August 13, 2015, 07:20 PM

Don't go in the water. There are things in there that you can't see and that will eat you. Avoid it.

tipoc

PA32Mark · August 13, 2015, 11:14 PM

I carry pretty much 24/7, but would not actually go swimming with my gun. But for other water sports, like boating, kayaking, white water rafting, etc, I found some useful items here: www.thewaterproofstore.com

CZ9Joe · August 14, 2015, 12:52 AM

I switch to a knife for the beach and the main thing I'm concerned about are the sharks. Jaws might kill me but I'm going to stab him in the eyes a few times before I bleed out so he remembers me!

July 1, 2015, 04:13 AM	#1
simonrichter Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 757	CC and water sports It might appear a funny question to you, but since I come from a country where one can't carry firearms, I'm curious: As far as I get it from this forum and others, many of you folks advocate that IF you carry, it (logically) makes most sense "24/7" because you would not know if and when a certain situation may occur. But what do you do when you go say swimming or do other water sport activities? I know the question may seem a little quaint, yet nowadays it does have kind of a realistic background in the light of the recent act of terrorism on a Tunisian touristic beach... __________________ "Get off of my lawn!" Walt Kowalski . ISSC PAR .223

July 2, 2015, 01:57 AM	#8
Glockstar .40 Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2012 Location: West of the Rockies Posts: 435	I avoided a water balloon fight on Sunday because I was cc'n and had a white shirt on __________________ He alone is my Rock and my Salvation, my Stronghold; I shall not be shaken!

July 2, 2015, 04:24 PM	#9
simonrichter Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 757	...but I reckon salt water is quite another story...? when I see what it does to metal on boats or beach constructions, it sure isn't what you want your gun to come in touch with...? __________________ "Get off of my lawn!" Walt Kowalski . ISSC PAR .223

July 2, 2015, 04:58 PM	#11
skizzums Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2013 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 4,615	I carry when I swim, I just put it in my little towel bag when I actually go in the water. I never really thought about. I wouldn't ever actually go "swimming" with a gun, gotta draw a line somewhere...like the bathtub and shower. well.......maybe not __________________ My head is bloody, but unbowed

July 2, 2015, 05:33 PM	#15
simonrichter Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 757	Another thought: Would a gun actually work when there is water in the barrel? __________________ "Get off of my lawn!" Walt Kowalski . ISSC PAR .223

July 1, 2015, 11:50 AM	#2
dyl Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,310	I bet you've found that it varies from person to person. The person who first introduced me to shooting now carries less frequently even when traveling - unsure why. Changes in mindset and priorities I suppose. When I go swimming (indoor) I don't carry in the pool, I leave it in the locker. Last time I went to the beach I carried but did not go swimming. I did a little wading but the gun (and my phone) only got a little wet through my shorts. I don't carry when I know I will be submerged but I try to carry as far as I can secure the firearm. Swimwear is even more prohibitive to carrying than street clothes and it seems like a limited market for any manufacturer to get into.

July 1, 2015, 12:56 PM	#3
ChuckS Member Join Date: March 4, 2009 Location: Albion, PA Posts: 93	One way is to use a small dry box, such as a Pelican. It keeps it dry and sand free. I have also carried in a IWB holster when canoeing or kayaking, but I am confident enough in my (and my partners) abilities to not overturn. I have also used a fanny pack (bum bag). Water doesn't bother me as much as the sand does. I try and avoid getting sand on/in my pistol.

July 1, 2015, 06:21 PM	#4
AK103K Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2001 Posts: 10,223	I dont swim (intentionally) with mine, but its not that big a deal if they should get a dunk. My water sports these days are canoe's and kayak's, and I have gone in a few times wearing my gun(s), its just the nature of the beast. I do wear a lanyard while in a boat, as the rivers tend to take anything you have on you, if its not attached to you.

July 1, 2015, 06:48 PM	#5
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	One way to waterproof a handgun is to use a simple "zip lock" bag. They are watertight when sealed and one can, if necessary, operate the gun through the plastic. It might interfere with the slide or hammer movement, but with many guns will allow at least one shot. Jim

July 1, 2015, 07:45 PM	#6
mxsailor803 Senior Member Join Date: February 8, 2010 Location: SC Posts: 1,344	I usually carry OWB while on the river fishing. SC and FL gamewardens have never given me a hard since most of my loads were shotshells (snakes). They would ask if I had a permit and I do but never had to pull it out and show it. I did get submerged last trip and I sprayed the dickens out of with WD40 until I could get home and do a proper tear down with CLP.

July 1, 2015, 08:09 PM	#7
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,323	Honestly, most handguns can be fully submerged. I would have no trouble submerging my Kahr 380, cleaning and reoiling later. Most modern guns can handle it fine. In a swimming pool, I don't want the printing.

July 2, 2015, 04:43 PM	#10
Dragline45 Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2010 Posts: 3,513	There are certain times where I forgo carrying so I can enjoy myself, swimming is one of them. Life is too short to not enjoy myself here and there just so I can carry 24/7. If terrorists decide to shoot up the beach I am on, so be it, I take far more risk driving to the beach than I do choosing not to carry at the beach.

July 2, 2015, 05:00 PM	#12
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	James Bond epics aside, I have never heard of anyone being attacked while swimming by anything a handgun would stop. Maybe a .500 S&W would discourage a great white but I am pretty sure anything smaller would just make him mad. Jim

July 2, 2015, 05:04 PM	#14
colbad Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2012 Posts: 506	I switch to a spear gun.

July 2, 2015, 05:35 PM	#16
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	Front carry when I wear my speedo.

July 2, 2015, 07:04 PM	#18
Arizona Fusilier Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2000 Posts: 1,082	When I am around the water, a stainless revolver is in order, my S&W 686, 649, or 629. But actually in the water? Naaaw, I'm paranoid, but not that paranoid!

July 2, 2015, 07:15 PM	#19
Ricklin Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: SW Washington state Posts: 2,011	Blackpowder THose of us who play with blackpowder are not afraid to get guns good and wet. Standard cleanup for blackpowder weapons involves copious quantities of good old soap and water. The key is near boiling water for the final rinse, the heat will drive the moisture from the metal very quickly. Follow with oil and you are golden. __________________ ricklin Freedom is not free

July 3, 2015, 05:02 AM	#20
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835

July 3, 2015, 05:16 AM	#21
simonrichter Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 757	addendum: Actually I did not suppose one would actually take a gun into the water because it might be needed THERE. The problem I was referring to is that when you take a gun to the beach, you can hardly just leave it under your blanket while in the water... __________________ "Get off of my lawn!" Walt Kowalski . ISSC PAR .223

August 13, 2015, 03:12 PM	#22
simonrichter Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 757	somewhere in the last third of this article, the issue of water sports and guns is addressed... __________________ "Get off of my lawn!" Walt Kowalski . ISSC PAR .223

August 13, 2015, 07:20 PM	#23
tipoc Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2004 Location: Redwood City, Ca. Posts: 4,114	Don't go in the water. There are things in there that you can't see and that will eat you. Avoid it. tipoc

August 13, 2015, 11:14 PM	#24
PA32Mark Member Join Date: January 27, 2015 Posts: 54	I carry pretty much 24/7, but would not actually go swimming with my gun. But for other water sports, like boating, kayaking, white water rafting, etc, I found some useful items here: www.thewaterproofstore.com

August 14, 2015, 12:52 AM	#25
CZ9Joe Member Join Date: January 10, 2015 Posts: 77	I switch to a knife for the beach and the main thing I'm concerned about are the sharks. Jaws might kill me but I'm going to stab him in the eyes a few times before I bleed out so he remembers me!

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