Reduced load 300 Wby Magnum?

Messersmith · July 8, 2009, 01:03 PM

I have found a great deal on a Win Mod 70 in 300 Wby Mag. I was looking for something in 270Win, 270 WSM, 30-06 or 300WSM but I'm really attracted to the deal factor on this one.

Have any of you done reduced 300 Wby mag loads (something like a 150gr bullet at 2,900fps) for lighter recoil? If so, how do the loads perform in accuracy and recoil?

I hunt mostly whitetail and black bear but plan to hunt elk and/or moose with this rifle at some point. Your thoughts?

VaFisher · July 8, 2009, 02:54 PM

I load for the .300 WBY mag using 150 gr Hornady SST bullet with H-4831 powder. The recoil is lighter then I expected, when I worked the load up I was pleasently surprized.

Shoney · July 8, 2009, 03:37 PM

How about these from Hodgdon.

All hodgdon Youth Loads use WinLR Primer

270 Youth Hodgdon___PWDR___Gr___VEL___CUP_____COL:
100 GR. HDY SP_____H4895 ___36__2604__28,000___3.145
110 GR. SIE SPT_____H4895___36.2_2594__29,100___3.145

30-06 Youth Hodgdon___PWDR___Gr___VEL___CUP_____COL: :
125 GR. NOS BT_______H4895__40.5__2615__31,200___3.27
130 GR. HDY SSP______H4895__39____2544__31,500___3.22
135 GR. SIE SP________H4895__39____2495__30,800___3.16

300WM Youth Hodgdon___PWDR___Gr___VEL___CUP_____COL:
125 GR. NOS BT_________H4895__46___2615__24,100___3.3
130 GR. HDY SSP________H4895__44.5__2546__23,800___3.25
135 GR. SIE SP__________H4895__44___2498__23,900___3.25

Doodlebugger45 · July 8, 2009, 03:48 PM

Hodgdon Powder has done a lot of study about reduced loads in rifle cartridges. They recommend using H4895 for that kind of stuff. Unlike a lot of other powders, you can take H4895 and reduce it a lot, I mean a WHOLE LOT and it will still be safe. You can take their max load and subtract about 35% of the powder charge and it will reduce the velocity by about 25% for example. More or less, that is, but the point is they say it's perfectly safe to do so. They recommend that you don't go under about 60% of the published max loads though for H4895.

There might be other powders that you can reduce significantly below the starting loads too. This is just the first one I saw published by a powder company.

freakshow10mm · July 8, 2009, 04:22 PM

IMR 4198 is a favorite for reduced loads. Both the IMR and Hodgdon 4198 and 4895 can be used safely with reduced loads.

Messersmith · July 9, 2009, 08:32 AM

thanks for the replies, i wanted to make sure I wasn't off my rocker with this line of thought

rg1 · July 9, 2009, 08:00 PM

Just my opinion but I wouldn't go to the trouble or expense developing "reduced" loads for your Weatherby. If you want to tame the recoil slightly just use recommended "START" to mid-range reloading data using recommended in the manual powders such as Hodgdon or IMR 4831. Velocities with those powders at the Start charges would put you in the 2900-3000 fps range. You've got a hunting rifle there and not a plinking rifle anyway so let it romp. Consider a recoil pad for your shoulder while testing at the range. You won't feel the recoil with a deer or elk in your sights but very many rounds off the bench will get your attention. Want a light kicking rifle get a .260 Rem or such. Careful reloading the belted cases. If you full length size pushing the shoulder back all the way you'll only get 3-4 loadings before your cases have stretched just in front of the belt and case separation is a possibility. Treat the belted cases just like loading for say a 30-06 and push the shoulder back only enough for positive chambering.

langenc · July 10, 2009, 04:52 PM

Go to Hodgdon site-check on DATA and then youth loads from the popups that appear.

I believe they are very adament ONLY H 4895--any published load may be reduced to 60 per cent-that is anypublished load but ONLY H 4895.

Check em out.

July 8, 2009, 01:03 PM	#1
Messersmith Member Join Date: December 4, 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 37	Reduced load 300 Wby Magnum? I have found a great deal on a Win Mod 70 in 300 Wby Mag. I was looking for something in 270Win, 270 WSM, 30-06 or 300WSM but I'm really attracted to the deal factor on this one. Have any of you done reduced 300 Wby mag loads (something like a 150gr bullet at 2,900fps) for lighter recoil? If so, how do the loads perform in accuracy and recoil? I hunt mostly whitetail and black bear but plan to hunt elk and/or moose with this rifle at some point. Your thoughts?

July 8, 2009, 03:37 PM	#3
Shoney Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2002 Location: Transplanted from Montana Posts: 2,311	How about these from Hodgdon. All hodgdon Youth Loads use WinLR Primer 270 Youth Hodgdon___PWDR___Gr___VEL___CUP_____COL: 100 GR. HDY SP_____H4895 ___36__2604__28,000___3.145 110 GR. SIE SPT_____H4895___36.2_2594__29,100___3.145 30-06 Youth Hodgdon___PWDR___Gr___VEL___CUP_____COL: : 125 GR. NOS BT_______H4895__40.5__2615__31,200___3.27 130 GR. HDY SSP______H4895__39____2544__31,500___3.22 135 GR. SIE SP________H4895__39____2495__30,800___3.16 300WM Youth Hodgdon___PWDR___Gr___VEL___CUP_____COL: 125 GR. NOS BT_________H4895__46___2615__24,100___3.3 130 GR. HDY SSP________H4895__44.5__2546__23,800___3.25 135 GR. SIE SP__________H4895__44___2498__23,900___3.25 __________________ I pledge allegiance to the Flag - - -, and to the Republic for which it stands….Our Forefathers were brilliant for giving us a Republic, not a democracy! Do you know the difference??? and WHY?http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue...les.asp?id=111

July 8, 2009, 02:54 PM	#2
VaFisher Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2006 Posts: 596	I load for the .300 WBY mag using 150 gr Hornady SST bullet with H-4831 powder. The recoil is lighter then I expected, when I worked the load up I was pleasently surprized.

July 8, 2009, 03:48 PM	#4
Doodlebugger45 Senior Member Join Date: April 15, 2009 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,717	Hodgdon Powder has done a lot of study about reduced loads in rifle cartridges. They recommend using H4895 for that kind of stuff. Unlike a lot of other powders, you can take H4895 and reduce it a lot, I mean a WHOLE LOT and it will still be safe. You can take their max load and subtract about 35% of the powder charge and it will reduce the velocity by about 25% for example. More or less, that is, but the point is they say it's perfectly safe to do so. They recommend that you don't go under about 60% of the published max loads though for H4895. There might be other powders that you can reduce significantly below the starting loads too. This is just the first one I saw published by a powder company.

July 8, 2009, 04:22 PM	#5
freakshow10mm Junior member Join Date: January 23, 2008 Location: MI Posts: 1,398	IMR 4198 is a favorite for reduced loads. Both the IMR and Hodgdon 4198 and 4895 can be used safely with reduced loads.

July 9, 2009, 08:32 AM	#6
Messersmith Member Join Date: December 4, 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 37	thanks for the replies, i wanted to make sure I wasn't off my rocker with this line of thought

July 9, 2009, 08:00 PM	#7
rg1 Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2001 Posts: 1,125	Just my opinion but I wouldn't go to the trouble or expense developing "reduced" loads for your Weatherby. If you want to tame the recoil slightly just use recommended "START" to mid-range reloading data using recommended in the manual powders such as Hodgdon or IMR 4831. Velocities with those powders at the Start charges would put you in the 2900-3000 fps range. You've got a hunting rifle there and not a plinking rifle anyway so let it romp. Consider a recoil pad for your shoulder while testing at the range. You won't feel the recoil with a deer or elk in your sights but very many rounds off the bench will get your attention. Want a light kicking rifle get a .260 Rem or such. Careful reloading the belted cases. If you full length size pushing the shoulder back all the way you'll only get 3-4 loadings before your cases have stretched just in front of the belt and case separation is a possibility. Treat the belted cases just like loading for say a 30-06 and push the shoulder back only enough for positive chambering.

July 10, 2009, 04:52 PM	#8
langenc Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2007 Location: Montmorency Co, MI Posts: 1,551	Go to Hodgdon site-check on DATA and then youth loads from the popups that appear. I believe they are very adament ONLY H 4895--any published load may be reduced to 60 per cent-that is anypublished load but ONLY H 4895. Check em out.