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April 17, 2013, 07:44 AM | #1 |
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Today's the day - Vote on S. 649
Doesn't look like the votes are there to pass it.
I saw one report that said it has only 38 votes! Probably because these two have been the most needed... How about the part where they actually enforce the 4473!? Chances of this passing through the WH with a signature? 0.0000001% |
April 17, 2013, 07:55 AM | #2 |
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Either way, the administration gets what it wants - some sort of "gun control" measure passing the Senate or the opportunity to bash the hell out of Republicans for "obstructing" their noble attempts to fight "gun crimes".
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April 17, 2013, 07:58 AM | #3 |
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Yeah, but they don't get much, really...
I saw a poll, only 4% consider gun control a big issue... Obama already has their votes. Once again, Obama is focusing on the wrong priorities, as he has done his entire administration... pushing Obamacare when the economy was in shambles being the first and most obvious case. He should STILL be pushing jobs... and still is focusing in the wrong place. This won't help the Dems in 2016... The Repubs, who I am not a fan of either, can honestly say... 8 years of Dem leadership, where are the jobs? Sorry for the tangent! Back to topic... Obama is already defeated, that's why he's upped his rhetoric on news interviews, etc... lying about police opinion, etc... Political desperation is quite visible. |
April 17, 2013, 02:45 PM | #4 |
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I don't want to speculate too much about this, but it does seem to appear that most of what was originally being fought for will not clear the senate. Even if it does, congress will likely block it once it reaches them. Hopefully the results will be out soon.
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April 17, 2013, 03:06 PM | #5 |
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Time to hold your breath folks and pray.
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April 17, 2013, 03:27 PM | #6 |
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Did Reid of Nevada just vote no?!?
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April 17, 2013, 03:32 PM | #7 |
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Yup
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April 17, 2013, 03:32 PM | #8 |
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Background Checks Failed 54-46. Praise GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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April 17, 2013, 03:33 PM | #9 |
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Interesting. I wonder what his game, and his position is.
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April 17, 2013, 04:01 PM | #10 |
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reid voted no gives him a chance to bring up another bill. political move!!
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April 17, 2013, 04:10 PM | #12 |
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Per Yahoo News:
Democratic Sens. Mark Begich of Alaska, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, Mark Pryor of Arkansas and Max Baucus of Montana voted against it. (Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada switched his vote to no at the end, a procedural tactic that allows him to bring it up for a vote later.) In addition to Toomey, Republicans who supported the amendment were Sens. Mark Kirk of Illinois, Susan Collins of Maine and John McCain of Arizona. |
April 17, 2013, 04:12 PM | #13 |
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So Senator Schumer(NY) just said that amendment 719(Constitutional Concealed Carry) would be a disaster in New York. He said that this is a states' rights issue and shouldn't be forced upon the rest of the country because it would work in one or two states.
So apparently, it's OK to force states to abide by a background check law that you co-sponsor, but not for amendment 719. Gotcha. |
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April 17, 2013, 04:23 PM | #15 |
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We've already got a whole thread to discuss S. 649. It's called S.649: Reid's Base Gun Control Bill
Accordingly, closed.
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