Uberti "target" 1858s

BConklin · December 14, 2010, 11:18 AM

I'm thinking of getting one of these but all I can seem to find online is a stainless version.

Does Uberti currently offer a 44. cal 1858 with 8" barrel in blued steel with target sights?

Hardcase · December 14, 2010, 12:06 PM

I'm not sure that a target 1858 revolver in any finish is in Uberti's current line.

starbuck125 · December 14, 2010, 09:14 PM

Cabelas has stainless 1858 target model for $ 429.99 with free shipping. dunno if they're uberti's or not though...give them a call.

BConklin · December 14, 2010, 09:48 PM

Thanks Starbuck but I've seen those in person at Cabela's. They're Piettas

DGW offers Uberti 1858s in stainless also - but I'm looking for a blued Uberti target model.

junkman_01 · December 14, 2010, 09:48 PM

I think Cabelas sells only Pietta c&b guns.

Hawg · December 14, 2010, 09:53 PM

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I think Cabelas sells only Pietta c&b guns.

Walker and 49 are Uberti.

Hardy · December 14, 2010, 10:09 PM

Just curious here. I know r/d conversion cylinders are made for steel frames instead of brass. But the 1858 45 conversion also fits in the 1858 Texas brass pretty good. Since it does have a top strap making it a bit stronger than open frames, is this cylinder still unsafe to shoot in this model?

Hardcase · December 14, 2010, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Just curious here. I know r/d conversion cylinders are made for steel frames instead of brass. But the 1858 45 conversion also fits in the 1858 Texas brass pretty good. Since it does have a top strap making it a bit stronger than open frames, is this cylinder still unsafe to shoot in this model?

The best advice that I can offer is that I wouldn't do it.

kenno · December 14, 2010, 11:08 PM

Are you trying to get around regestration, or felon in possesion?
Either way, once that conversion cylinder is in the frame, the Feds can book you on several related charges OR laws that will soon be on the books, They have a billion Lawyers working on every angle (yanked from Fed drug prosecutions)

Hawg · December 15, 2010, 05:34 AM

Hardy it will still beat it to death in a very short time. After just a few rounds you will see the cylinder ratchet starting to leave impressions in the frame.

Kenno, the conversion cylinders are legal to own and use, you just can't sell the gun with it installed. Get your facts straight before you start spreading B.S.

zippy13 · December 15, 2010, 03:03 PM

If you can believe the UbertiUSA site, the only target model available in a Remington 1858 configuration is their target carbine. The Italian site for A.Uberti S.p.a. lists a target revolver; but, as you speculated, it's shown only in stainless.

Gaucho Gringo · December 15, 2010, 07:00 PM

Cabelas lists a blued Pietta 1858 Remington Target pistol for $259.99 which includes the starter kit. Could not find one listed without the stater kit. Here is the url http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/brows...?WTz_stype=GNP With Pietta's good quality nowadays and Cabelas free shipping it sounds like a good buy on a pistol you want.

Doc Hoy · December 15, 2010, 07:26 PM

I would skip the shooting kit. Just buy the pistol at $219.

junkman_01 · December 15, 2010, 07:44 PM

Gaucho,

Here's the same pistola w/o the starter kit...

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoot...sPerPage%3D108

Hawg · December 15, 2010, 08:13 PM

Yeah, forget the kit.

BConklin · December 15, 2010, 09:37 PM

I think I'll hold out to see if an Uberti shows up on an auction site.

I've got a Uberti 1858 Remington revolving rifle coming and I'd like to be able to swap the cylinders with the pistol. ...I don't suppose Pietta cylinders fit Ubertis, do they?

madcratebuilder · December 16, 2010, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BConklin

I think I'll hold out to see if an Uberti shows up on an auction site.

I've got a Uberti 1858 Remington revolving rifle coming and I'd like to be able to swap the cylinders with the pistol. ...I don't suppose Pietta cylinders fit Ubertis, do they?

Nope, different length.

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Originally Posted by Hardy

Just curious here. I know r/d conversion cylinders are made for steel frames instead of brass. But the 1858 45 conversion also fits in the 1858 Texas brass pretty good. Since it does have a top strap making it a bit stronger than open frames, is this cylinder still unsafe to shoot in this model?

It's not recommended. The brass is softer and you would probably see peening on the recoil shield. I suppose you could reload some very light BP loads and get away with it in the full Remington frame.

starbuck125 · December 17, 2010, 12:09 AM

found one !!! on gunbroker, item # 204452794 starting bid is $395.00 action ends tommorrow.

BConklin · December 17, 2010, 06:15 PM

Thanks for the tip Starbuck

December 14, 2010, 11:18 AM	#1
BConklin Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2010 Posts: 136	Uberti "target" 1858s I'm thinking of getting one of these but all I can seem to find online is a stainless version. Does Uberti currently offer a 44. cal 1858 with 8" barrel in blued steel with target sights?

December 14, 2010, 12:06 PM	#2
Hardcase Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Sunny Southern Idaho Posts: 1,909	I'm not sure that a target 1858 revolver in any finish is in Uberti's current line. __________________ Well we don't rent pigs and I figure it's better to say it right out front because a man that does like to rent pigs is... he's hard to stop - Gus McCrae

December 15, 2010, 07:00 PM	#12
Gaucho Gringo Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2007 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 366	Cabelas lists a blued Pietta 1858 Remington Target pistol for $259.99 which includes the starter kit. Could not find one listed without the stater kit. Here is the url http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/brows...?WTz_stype=GNP With Pietta's good quality nowadays and Cabelas free shipping it sounds like a good buy on a pistol you want. __________________ 357 Taurus Gaucho, 22 Heritage RR, 2-Pietta 1858 44 NMA Remingtons, Pietta, Euroarms & ASM 36 1851 Navies, 31 Uberti 1849, 12 ga H&R Topper, 16 Ga Western Field, 43 Spanish Remington Rolling Block, 44 ASM Colt Walker, High Point C9 9mm, Winchester 1906 22, Rossi 62 22 rifle, Uberti 1860, H&A & IJ 32 S&W BreakTop, 36 Euroarms 1858, 32 H&R 04, 22mag NAA SS BP revolver, .44 Rodgers & Spencer, IJ 38 S&W BreakTop, IJ 22 Sealed 8

December 15, 2010, 07:26 PM	#13
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Regarding the Cabela's deal I would skip the shooting kit. Just buy the pistol at $219. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

December 14, 2010, 09:14 PM	#3
starbuck125 Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2009 Location: kentucky Posts: 140	Cabelas has stainless 1858 target model for $ 429.99 with free shipping. dunno if they're uberti's or not though...give them a call.

December 14, 2010, 09:48 PM	#4
BConklin Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2010 Posts: 136	Thanks Starbuck but I've seen those in person at Cabela's. They're Piettas DGW offers Uberti 1858s in stainless also - but I'm looking for a blued Uberti target model.

December 14, 2010, 09:48 PM	#5
junkman_01 Junior member Join Date: November 9, 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 260	I think Cabelas sells only Pietta c&b guns.

December 14, 2010, 10:09 PM	#7
Hardy Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 709	Just curious here. I know r/d conversion cylinders are made for steel frames instead of brass. But the 1858 45 conversion also fits in the 1858 Texas brass pretty good. Since it does have a top strap making it a bit stronger than open frames, is this cylinder still unsafe to shoot in this model?

December 14, 2010, 11:08 PM	#9
kenno Junior member Join Date: November 3, 2008 Posts: 180	Are you trying to get around regestration, or felon in possesion? Either way, once that conversion cylinder is in the frame, the Feds can book you on several related charges OR laws that will soon be on the books, They have a billion Lawyers working on every angle (yanked from Fed drug prosecutions)

December 15, 2010, 05:34 AM	#10
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	Hardy it will still beat it to death in a very short time. After just a few rounds you will see the cylinder ratchet starting to leave impressions in the frame. Kenno, the conversion cylinders are legal to own and use, you just can't sell the gun with it installed. Get your facts straight before you start spreading B.S.

December 15, 2010, 03:03 PM	#11
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	If you can believe the UbertiUSA site, the only target model available in a Remington 1858 configuration is their target carbine. The Italian site for A.Uberti S.p.a. lists a target revolver; but, as you speculated, it's shown only in stainless.

December 15, 2010, 07:44 PM	#14
junkman_01 Junior member Join Date: November 9, 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 260	Gaucho, Here's the same pistola w/o the starter kit... http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoot...sPerPage%3D108

December 15, 2010, 08:13 PM	#15
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	Yeah, forget the kit.

December 15, 2010, 09:37 PM	#16
BConklin Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2010 Posts: 136	I think I'll hold out to see if an Uberti shows up on an auction site. I've got a Uberti 1858 Remington revolving rifle coming and I'd like to be able to swap the cylinders with the pistol. ...I don't suppose Pietta cylinders fit Ubertis, do they?

December 17, 2010, 12:09 AM	#18
starbuck125 Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2009 Location: kentucky Posts: 140	found one !!! on gunbroker, item # 204452794 starting bid is $395.00 action ends tommorrow.

December 17, 2010, 06:15 PM	#19
BConklin Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2010 Posts: 136	Thanks for the tip Starbuck