can you help me identify my nagant

shooter970 · May 3, 2011, 01:35 PM

im not sure if i have a finnish m28/30 or a m39 mossin nagant. how can i tell?
it is maked with the sako proff mark and sky 1944 on it also.

Shooter4Life · May 3, 2011, 02:09 PM

This is the best site for Nagant information that I have found. You should easily be able to identify your rifle from their pictures.

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinID.htm

From your limited description I would say that you have a Soviet M44 but more information would be necessary and pictures always help. The more information you give us, the more we can help. That link should get you going in the right direction.

jtb1967 · May 3, 2011, 03:37 PM

An M44 wouldn't have a Sako proof mark nor SKY on it. But the link given will help you identify it.

Shooter4Life · May 3, 2011, 04:58 PM

My bad, I meant Finnish M39. Sometimes I type faster than I think. I've never seen a Finn stamped 1944. Could you post some pictures?

jtb1967 · May 3, 2011, 05:17 PM

The Sako produced civil guard M39's were produced from 1942 to 1944.

MikeG · May 3, 2011, 05:21 PM

They quit making M28/30s in 1940, so a 1944 would most probably be a M39. Also, M28/30s had straight wristed stocks, while most M39s had pistol grips. There were a few very early M39s with straight stocks.

shooter970 · May 10, 2011, 07:16 AM

Your correct it's a m39 SK.y civil guard. At least now I know what I have. Thanks guys

chack · May 24, 2011, 04:21 PM

I never understood why some people call mosins a nagant.

ksstargazer · May 28, 2011, 08:26 AM

My well-worn 1943 SKy M39 is one of my favorites - a very smooth 2 stage trigger on it.
People often call a mosin, a nagant, because technically they are mosin nagants. The Belgium gunmaker, Nagant, designed the feeding system on the Mosin Nagant whereas the Soviet gunmaker, Mosin, designed the rest of the rifle.
Collectors refer to the rifle as Mosin and refer to the 1895 revolver as Nagant. It does get confusing to see a posting using the term Nagant and then see that the posting is about a rifle. It happens so commonly that I have gotten used to it and deal with it accordingly.
The fact that most dealers don't know the difference between Finns and Soviets and other details about these rifles has enabled me to get some very collectible rifles at dirt cheap prices. The internet has made these deals occur less often and dealers generally now know the difference.
So, if you want to appear to be a knowledgable collector, don't call a Mosin a Nagant.

customaquatics · May 29, 2011, 06:25 AM

i call my 2 my mighty mosins.

May 3, 2011, 01:35 PM	#1
shooter970 Member Join Date: March 22, 2011 Location: North west Ga Posts: 30	can you help me identify my nagant im not sure if i have a finnish m28/30 or a m39 mossin nagant. how can i tell? it is maked with the sako proff mark and sky 1944 on it also.

May 29, 2011, 06:25 AM	#10
customaquatics Senior Member Join Date: March 13, 2011 Location: illinois Posts: 678	i call my 2 my mighty mosins. __________________ 23 year old NRA member AKaholic #158907 , 1942 Ex-Sniper Izzy Mosin Nagant, 1970's Marlin 30-30, Remington 870 tatical, Charter Arms The Pink Lady 38 Special.

May 3, 2011, 02:09 PM	#2
Shooter4Life Member Join Date: May 2, 2011 Posts: 50	This is the best site for Nagant information that I have found. You should easily be able to identify your rifle from their pictures. http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinID.htm From your limited description I would say that you have a Soviet M44 but more information would be necessary and pictures always help. The more information you give us, the more we can help. That link should get you going in the right direction.

May 3, 2011, 03:37 PM	#3
jtb1967 Junior member Join Date: September 29, 2004 Location: WV Posts: 454	An M44 wouldn't have a Sako proof mark nor SKY on it. But the link given will help you identify it.

May 3, 2011, 04:58 PM	#4
Shooter4Life Member Join Date: May 2, 2011 Posts: 50	My bad, I meant Finnish M39. Sometimes I type faster than I think. I've never seen a Finn stamped 1944. Could you post some pictures?

May 3, 2011, 05:17 PM	#5
jtb1967 Junior member Join Date: September 29, 2004 Location: WV Posts: 454	The Sako produced civil guard M39's were produced from 1942 to 1944.

May 3, 2011, 05:21 PM	#6
MikeG Senior Member Join Date: April 2, 2002 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 256	They quit making M28/30s in 1940, so a 1944 would most probably be a M39. Also, M28/30s had straight wristed stocks, while most M39s had pistol grips. There were a few very early M39s with straight stocks.

May 10, 2011, 07:16 AM	#7
shooter970 Member Join Date: March 22, 2011 Location: North west Ga Posts: 30	Your correct it's a m39 SK.y civil guard. At least now I know what I have. Thanks guys

May 24, 2011, 04:21 PM	#8
chack Junior member Join Date: May 24, 2011 Location: dixie Posts: 477	I never understood why some people call mosins a nagant.

May 28, 2011, 08:26 AM	#9
ksstargazer Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2004 Location: Flint Hills of Kansas Posts: 316	My well-worn 1943 SKy M39 is one of my favorites - a very smooth 2 stage trigger on it. People often call a mosin, a nagant, because technically they are mosin nagants. The Belgium gunmaker, Nagant, designed the feeding system on the Mosin Nagant whereas the Soviet gunmaker, Mosin, designed the rest of the rifle. Collectors refer to the rifle as Mosin and refer to the 1895 revolver as Nagant. It does get confusing to see a posting using the term Nagant and then see that the posting is about a rifle. It happens so commonly that I have gotten used to it and deal with it accordingly. The fact that most dealers don't know the difference between Finns and Soviets and other details about these rifles has enabled me to get some very collectible rifles at dirt cheap prices. The internet has made these deals occur less often and dealers generally now know the difference. So, if you want to appear to be a knowledgable collector, don't call a Mosin a Nagant.