Benelli Nova Fires When Pumped

FiveFeezy · June 13, 2010, 10:56 PM

A friend of mine bought a Benelli Nova and took it to the range to try it out. When he pumped it to chamber a round it fired. So he took it back to the store and exchanged it for another Nova. He took it to the range and the exact same thing happened. So he took that one back and now has decided to get something else. When he told me this story I had to ask, "Are you sure you didn't have your finger on the trigger?" He says he is absolutely postive that he did not.

Thoughts?

riggins_83 · June 13, 2010, 11:02 PM

I haven't seen anything on the Nova lately.. sounds fishy to me. Is this his first gun? Also I've never seen a store that would just do an exchange, so the entire thing sounds fishy...

FiveFeezy · June 13, 2010, 11:05 PM

It wasn't his first gun. He already has a pistol and a bolt action. It was his first shotgun though.

riggins_83 · June 13, 2010, 11:08 PM

How hard was he cycling the action? Though I've never heard of a full batch such as this, possible it was a loose primer or the firing pin was jammed. I've not had to work on any Novas other than cleaning my dads a couple years ago..

sks · June 13, 2010, 11:10 PM

I have a Super Nova and that has never happened to me. I have racked it hard with no problems. Sounds strange.

Maromero · June 13, 2010, 11:14 PM

I wonder how this thread would go if the gun in question was a Remington.

zippy13 · June 13, 2010, 11:20 PM

I haven't heard of this before with the B-Nova. The common factors seems to be the ammo and the operator. What's know about the ammo?

FiveFeezy · June 13, 2010, 11:27 PM

I'm not sure about the ammo. I'll talk to him tomorrow and find out.

riggins_83 · June 13, 2010, 11:30 PM

Was he taking apart the gun and cleaning/lubing before he fired them? If so he might have been reassembling wrong..

**JohnKSa** · June 13, 2010, 11:49 PM

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Thoughts?

There are only a few possibilities.

1. A person purchased two defective shotguns that exhibited exactly the same failure mode.

2. All Benelli Nova shotguns go off when pumped.

3. A new shotgun owner made some sort of mistake and made the same mistake twice.

4. Your buddy made up a story and told it to you.

I'd say that 3 or 4 are the most likely explanations.

the rifleer · June 14, 2010, 12:53 AM

I bet it was opporator error or the ammo. Benelli is know for making very high quality shotguns, and the chance the two separet ones opperated failing in exactly the same way are rediculous. Unless I saw it for myself, i wouldn't/don't believe it was the gun's fault.

darkgael · June 14, 2010, 06:18 AM

All things being equal, given a number of possibilities the simplest explanation is most frequently the correct one.
I have a Benelli Nova. Mine doesn't do that. Lots of shooters would say the same thing.
As far as I know, Benelli has not recalled any Novas and that type of malfunction is a definite recall.

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A new shotgun owner made some sort of mistake and made the same mistake twice.

Yep.
Pete

JNewell · June 14, 2010, 11:22 AM

Quote:

There are only a few possibilities.

1. A person purchased two defective shotguns that exhibited exactly the same failure mode.

2. All Benelli Nova shotguns go off when pumped.

3. A new shotgun owner made some sort of mistake and made the same mistake twice.

4. Your buddy made up a story and told it to you.

I'd say that 3 or 4 are the most likely explanations.

I can guarantee it's not #2. No. 1 seems highly improbable. I think #s 3 and 4 are the likely suspects.

rjrivero · June 14, 2010, 12:04 PM

If it is #2, sign me up for one of them......That'll make 3 gun a bit more "interesting."

p99guy · June 14, 2010, 12:11 PM

Tell your friend to replace it with a winchester M97 or older model Ithaca 37

people liked that they "went Off when pumped"

*I suspect a trigger finger was envolved.

ZeSpectre · June 14, 2010, 12:36 PM

I know someone who had a similar complaint about a different model. So I watched him shoot and sure enough his finger was on the trigger as he slammed the slide forward with the predictable result of A) firing the gun, and B) smacking his shoulder since the gun was loose off of his shoulder from being pulled forward.

Or I suppose it could also be an ammo issue.

I tend to doubt that he got two faulty guns in a row, especially from Benelli.

PJR · June 14, 2010, 02:04 PM

Has the owner had someone else try and fire the gun?

Deerhunter · June 14, 2010, 02:11 PM

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I wonder how this thread would go if the gun in question was a Remington.

Me, pick me, I know.......Remingtons suck. They don't make them like they did years ago. They only sell guns because of the name.

I am looking at the Benelli for my next shotgun (semi-auto though) but I can just imagine how this would be going if it was a Remington.

I have to agree with a few people though, probably operator error.

Maromero · June 14, 2010, 02:14 PM

LOL

zippy13 · June 14, 2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PJR

Has the owner had someone else try and fire the gun?

Probably not, it's way too obvious and logical.

jmr40 · June 14, 2010, 04:45 PM

Even if he did close the bolt with his finger on the trigger it should not fire until he releases the trigger and presses it again. Which he may well have done. None of the newer pumps are supposed to do this.

The odds of 1, let alone 2 guns malfunctioning this way seem impossible to me. I'd like to know for sure what the cause actually is.

JNewell · June 14, 2010, 06:04 PM

There'd have to be a trigger reset in the process, but that might happen without the shooter being alert to it when the gun recoils. The Nova has a very short reset.

June 13, 2010, 10:56 PM	#1
FiveFeezy Member Join Date: December 16, 2009 Posts: 47	Benelli Nova Fires When Pumped A friend of mine bought a Benelli Nova and took it to the range to try it out. When he pumped it to chamber a round it fired. So he took it back to the store and exchanged it for another Nova. He took it to the range and the exact same thing happened. So he took that one back and now has decided to get something else. When he told me this story I had to ask, "Are you sure you didn't have your finger on the trigger?" He says he is absolutely postive that he did not. Thoughts?

June 13, 2010, 11:08 PM	#4
riggins_83 Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2009 Location: Wherever I may roam Posts: 1,506	How hard was he cycling the action? Though I've never heard of a full batch such as this, possible it was a loose primer or the firing pin was jammed. I've not had to work on any Novas other than cleaning my dads a couple years ago.. __________________ l've heard police work is dangerous. Yes, that's why l carry a big gun. Couldn't it go off accidentally? l used to have that problem. What did you do about it? l just think about baseball. -Leslie Nielsen

June 13, 2010, 11:10 PM	#5
sks Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2000 Location: Williamsburg, MO Posts: 944	I have a Super Nova and that has never happened to me. I have racked it hard with no problems. Sounds strange. __________________ Guns don't kill people; bullets kill people!

June 13, 2010, 11:30 PM	#9
riggins_83 Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2009 Location: Wherever I may roam Posts: 1,506	Was he taking apart the gun and cleaning/lubing before he fired them? If so he might have been reassembling wrong.. __________________ l've heard police work is dangerous. Yes, that's why l carry a big gun. Couldn't it go off accidentally? l used to have that problem. What did you do about it? l just think about baseball. -Leslie Nielsen

June 14, 2010, 12:53 AM	#11
the rifleer Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2008 Location: Sunny California Posts: 1,281	I bet it was opporator error or the ammo. Benelli is know for making very high quality shotguns, and the chance the two separet ones opperated failing in exactly the same way are rediculous. Unless I saw it for myself, i wouldn't/don't believe it was the gun's fault. __________________ There is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid people.

June 13, 2010, 11:02 PM	#2
riggins_83 Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2009 Location: Wherever I may roam Posts: 1,506	I haven't seen anything on the Nova lately.. sounds fishy to me. Is this his first gun? Also I've never seen a store that would just do an exchange, so the entire thing sounds fishy... __________________ l've heard police work is dangerous. Yes, that's why l carry a big gun. Couldn't it go off accidentally? l used to have that problem. What did you do about it? l just think about baseball. -Leslie Nielsen

June 13, 2010, 11:05 PM	#3
FiveFeezy Member Join Date: December 16, 2009 Posts: 47	It wasn't his first gun. He already has a pistol and a bolt action. It was his first shotgun though.

June 13, 2010, 11:14 PM	#6
Maromero Junior member Join Date: January 21, 2009 Location: Outside the continental U Posts: 752	I wonder how this thread would go if the gun in question was a Remington.

June 13, 2010, 11:20 PM	#7
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	I haven't heard of this before with the B-Nova. The common factors seems to be the ammo and the operator. What's know about the ammo?

June 13, 2010, 11:27 PM	#8
FiveFeezy Member Join Date: December 16, 2009 Posts: 47	I'm not sure about the ammo. I'll talk to him tomorrow and find out.

June 14, 2010, 12:04 PM	#14
rjrivero Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 1,399	If it is #2, sign me up for one of them......That'll make 3 gun a bit more "interesting."

June 14, 2010, 12:11 PM	#15
p99guy Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2004 Location: Haslet,Texas(DFW area) Posts: 1,506	Tell your friend to replace it with a winchester M97 or older model Ithaca 37 people liked that they "went Off when pumped" *I suspect a trigger finger was envolved. __________________ Lighten up Francis!.....;Actor Warren Oats, in the movie "Stripes"

June 14, 2010, 12:36 PM	#16
ZeSpectre Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2007 Location: Shenandoah Valley Posts: 3,276	I know someone who had a similar complaint about a different model. So I watched him shoot and sure enough his finger was on the trigger as he slammed the slide forward with the predictable result of A) firing the gun, and B) smacking his shoulder since the gun was loose off of his shoulder from being pulled forward. Or I suppose it could also be an ammo issue. I tend to doubt that he got two faulty guns in a row, especially from Benelli. __________________ "The dogs may bark but the caravan moves on"

June 14, 2010, 02:04 PM	#17
PJR Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2000 Posts: 1,127	Has the owner had someone else try and fire the gun?

June 14, 2010, 02:14 PM	#19
Maromero Junior member Join Date: January 21, 2009 Location: Outside the continental U Posts: 752	LOL

June 14, 2010, 04:45 PM	#21
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,809	Even if he did close the bolt with his finger on the trigger it should not fire until he releases the trigger and presses it again. Which he may well have done. None of the newer pumps are supposed to do this. The odds of 1, let alone 2 guns malfunctioning this way seem impossible to me. I'd like to know for sure what the cause actually is.

June 14, 2010, 06:04 PM	#22
JNewell Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2000 Posts: 1,092	There'd have to be a trigger reset in the process, but that might happen without the shooter being alert to it when the gun recoils. The Nova has a very short reset.