July 24, 2012, 02:53 PM | #1 |
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Sig P238
I have had my CHL for about 3 months, and after waking up to that horrible news a few days ago of the Colorado shooting, I decided I want to carry on a regular basis. My fullsized Sig 2022 wasn't going to cut it. Its summer, it was 108 degree outside yesterday, so I decided I will start with a pocket carry. I went with the Sig P238. It is "expensive" for a pocket carry (compared to a SW Bodyguard or LCP).
I love this gun so far. I put 112 rounds (.380) through it yesterday (100 Monarch JHP, and 12 Hornady Critical Defense). The gun is ultra accurate and recoil is less than I expected for such a small gun. After my next range outing I'll give a better review, but all in all, I'm happy to be carrying such a nice piece. When the temperature dies down a bit I may look into getting a larger caliber to carry, but for now this is what I'm working with. MY QUESTION: Is carrying this (in a pocket holster) in condition 1 the best option? I know for a 1911 that is what is considered the standard, is it the same with a game without a grip safety? Thanks! |
July 24, 2012, 04:12 PM | #2 |
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Pocket holster in condition 1 is how I carry mine.
There's no grip safety, but there is a thumb safety and it works fine. I'd not want to try to cock the hammer in the heat of the moment. I agree that it's a fine gun- not inexpensive when compared to some others in the same size/caliber, but its recoil is extremely manageable. I found the aftermarket Alumagrips to be a nice step up from the stock plastic ones (the Crimson Trace laserguard is also a nice addition); the stock plastic grips just didn't give enough purchase for my huge mitts. |
July 24, 2012, 07:50 PM | #3 |
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Yes, cocked and locked but make sure you use a pocket holster.
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July 24, 2012, 08:40 PM | #4 |
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Absolutely cocked and locked, but I use a small OWB belt holster. I frequently practice drawing and dry-firing, clicking the safety off as I draw. Usually, starting with my arms at my sides, I can draw and put 2 holes in a sheet of typing paper at 8 feet in well under 1 second. Ammo is Buffalo Bore 100 gr. hardcast.
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July 24, 2012, 09:24 PM | #5 |
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Thanks for bringing up my next point... what kind of SD ammo do you guys like? With the smaller bullet I would think the heavier bullets would be preferred. I know Buffalo Bore has some 100 gr. That is the heaviest I've seen. What do you guys think?
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July 24, 2012, 10:31 PM | #6 |
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I just use a FMJ, usually 90 gr., in order to insure penetration. The only hollow point I would consider using is Hornady Critical Duty (not Critical Defense). http://www.hornady.com/store/380-Aut...tical-Defense/
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July 24, 2012, 10:37 PM | #7 |
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I keep my 238TL in condition one, pocket holster. So far, it's snarfed up every kind of ammo I give it. I keep the critical defense in it now, but some Hydra-Shoks would do very well...
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July 25, 2012, 03:57 PM | #8 |
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As I stated i the OP, I am new to carrying. I am a very "safe" person when it comes to guns. When in say, a movie theater, my gun will be cocked and locked basically aimed at the person's head in front of me. What is the best way to approach this. I know the safety is on and such, but I always go by the never point at something you don't intend to destroy. What do you guys do in a situation like this?
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IMO, if you're worried about the hammer slipping off the sear and igniting a round, you'll need to either put that fear to rest through studying the design or you'll need to find a different gun to carry. |
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July 25, 2012, 11:25 PM | #11 |
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I carry Condition 1 for a Sig P938 or P238.
Pocket holster, usually. Ammo: Buffalo Bore 90 grain Plus P. |
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July 27, 2012, 12:56 PM | #13 |
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if a pocket holster doesn't work out for ya.then I would look into a holster that you can carry behind the waist band.then the safety would be at your back and harder for it to be moved.( thats if you are right handed )
but for me right now when I carry my wifes little P238 I just carry with a pocket holster.I have never thought about the people in front of me.( even at church )
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July 27, 2012, 01:03 PM | #14 |
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This is the rig I use when not pocket-carrying. Kelley C-Flex worn at 4:30 position and it's almost nonexistent. Highly recommend.
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July 27, 2012, 06:33 PM | #15 |
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Nice set-up.
Dear RUARK,
Nice set-up ya got. What cover garment do you use? |
July 31, 2012, 01:24 PM | #16 |
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"Nice set-up ya got. What cover garment do you use?"
Oh, anything. Whatever works. I don't make a lifestyle out of CCW. 99% of the time it's just a roomy tropical shirt. If for some reason I'm tucked in, I use a pocket holster. |
July 31, 2012, 01:44 PM | #17 |
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Friend has one and carries it Condition 1 in a pocket holster. He shot it at an IDPA match and did very well. It wouldn't knock down a steel popper to activate a swinger though.
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I pick up my new Sig P238 SAS tomorrow. Super excited. Once my concealed license gets here, I'll be pocket carrying in front right pocket in a Desantis nemesis holster.
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