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May 22, 2008, 08:12 PM | #1 |
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Lyman sizing and decap die value?
I have a Lyman neck resizing and decap die for a model 310 tool minus the rod and pin. Can anyone tell me what its worth. Its in new shape with tiny bit of surface rust that you almost cant notice. The die says Lyman Univ. Decap die with E94 next to it. Thanks in advance, Mike
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May 22, 2008, 08:51 PM | #2 |
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$3?
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May 23, 2008, 07:37 AM | #3 |
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Are you sure on price?
$3 ??????? This dont look like a $3 part. It cant even be machined or knurled for that. Are you sure you got the rite part and price? The adjustment nut with set screw looks maybe 3 dollars.
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May 23, 2008, 09:54 AM | #4 |
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If it says "Universal Decap Die" than it's just a decapper -- removes spent primers in any caliber. It doesn't resize anything, and if it doesn't have a decapping rod... and all it does is decap... it's scrap metal.
In any case, NEW and COMPLETE dies, factory fresh and ready to roll come in sets with others dies that run as cheap as $12. (Lee RGB set) While Lyman isn't the cheapest of all die makers, there are quite literally tens of thousands of reloading dies out there and thousands more being produced daily. A value on an old, used, incomplete die that's missing parts-- and worse, a die that's made for a specific hand tool that hardly anyone uses? And it's got a light covering of rust? Not really fair to expect a high value on something unless there is a market for it. Put it on ebay and get two guys who get in a bidding war over it and you'll get $20 for it. Put it up for sale right here with a price tag of $3 plus shipping and you likely won't ever sell it. http://www.cnyauctions.com/the310shop.htm This appears to be a place that caters to fans of the 310 tool. Even they call it obsolete stuff.
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May 23, 2008, 11:11 AM | #5 |
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My thoughts exactly.. In my case for example, I'm low budget and want a universal decapping die. $3 seems steep with rust and no pin. The shipping on a pin alone will tip the scales. I'd rather fork out $15 for a new die than $3 for a rusty one only to spend $8 for a pin and $4 for shipping.
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May 23, 2008, 02:34 PM | #6 |
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"A value on an old, used, incomplete die that's missing parts-- and worse, a die that's made for a specific hand tool that hardly anyone uses? And it's got a light covering of rust?"
Yep. It's sort of like a well made buggy whip that is missing the handle. Sorry. |
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No rust, One little spot. In the scrap pile it goes. Its amazing how much machine work goes into something and its so cheap. If anyone can use, Send me postage for it and its yours. Otherwise its scrap. Thanks, Mike
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May 25, 2008, 09:20 PM | #8 |
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Not just decap die.
Im curious about this. In the owners manual for the die it states that it is a Neck resizing and decap die and it resizes the neck just enough to hold the bullet. I looked up something similar and they list for around 42.00 for the die and 5.00 for the pin that you buy seperate. It looks like it resizes and decaps at the same time when handle is squeezed. Does this sound rite? Its for a large caliber and I slipped a 45-70 into it and its a little smaller than the resizing end so its gotta be for something a little bigger than a 45-70 neck size. Im gonna call Lyman just for curiousity to see what this thing can do. It looks like a pretty cool reloading tool to have when its a complete assembly.
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Your original post is confusing. A neck sizing die and a Universal decapping die are two different animals. Since you said the die says universal decap on it that is what others have assumed it is. A universal decapping die is made with a large ID to swallow just about any cartridge. The only thing it really does is hold the decapping rod and pin in the center of the cartridge. Without the rod and pin it's not good for much.
A neck sizing die should be stamped with the cartridge it sizes. It might be used without the decapping pin, but the decapping rod is necessary as it expands the neck to the correct size after the die undersized it a little bit. Is it possible you have a set of instructions for a neck sizing die matched up with a universal decapping die?
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May 26, 2008, 08:17 AM | #10 |
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Sport45, It says "Decapping pin removes fired primer and the neck is resized just enough to hold bullet" Screw the die into tool handle just enough to force the case into the die for desired distance. Then adjust decap rod on same until it protrudes slightly above the handle opening. I researched this a little and they have individual decap and sizing dies for specific cartridge sizes. Im gonna give Lyman a call tmrw and see what this thing is. I saw a few on e-bay and some are pretty expensive for an older system. The 310 hand reloader looks pretty cool and simple to use but its sloooooooow and not for volume and proably good for individual load trials or a couple boxes at a time. It looks like the pins are sold seperate from the dies for around 5-6 bucks. Im not a rifle cartridge reloader(yet) and hopefully getting into it within a week or two when I get the items I need. Thanks,Mike
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Please let us know what Lyman had to say about it.
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It is stamped "Lyman Univ decap die E94". I looked at the 310 hand tool dies and this is one that is offered from Lyman at the time they were made. I left a message at Lyman and hopefully they get back to me. Its definately a resizing/ decap die from what they say. I will post when I find out furthur info.
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