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Old February 22, 2015, 05:31 PM   #1
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Want to use Bullseye in .357

I need some suggestions on a load for lead 140 gr.semi-wad cutters. I want to use a standard pistol primer instead of magnum.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Old February 22, 2015, 05:47 PM   #2
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It's Bullseye, so there will be no need to use a magnum primer. (There's no link between the use of a magnum primer and the use of a magnum cartridge. Magnum primers are used for hard to ignite powders - like W296/H-110, HS-6, IMR 4227, etc.)

What is your purpose?

Why not load in 38 Special cases?

I load a lot of lead in 38 Special, but have never heard of a 140gn SWC. I'd like to know specifically what bullet this is.
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Old February 22, 2015, 08:00 PM   #3
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I bet it`s a cast Lee 140gr swc which is kinda pointy.

I`ve used 148 wad cutter loads with no trouble in 357 cases, although 2.7 gr was kindofa anemic bunny poot load at 2.7gr.
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Old February 23, 2015, 08:48 AM   #4
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Bingo - gp100man, thats the bullet. I load that for .38 and .357. I have Bullseye and not any of the other powders. I used to use IMR 4227 for .357 but due to not being able to find it I have to use what I got.I finally ran out of magnum primers about the time I ran out of powder so i need to use what I have.

I load .357 to avoid carbon rings in the chamber from .38 loads. I load .38 to use in .38 revolvers.

I usually don't have any lead problems with my old loads but I don't know if I can load Bullseye to where it will be comparable to the previous loads. I don't want a "mouse" load.
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Old February 23, 2015, 08:56 AM   #5
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Old February 23, 2015, 10:13 AM   #6
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My favorite 357 load is with Bullseye behind 125 gr. Berrys plated with standard primers. I settled on 7.7 gr., and it's snappy, very accurate, and -- I love it.

My Lyman book shows a 150 gr. cast using a max of 7.0 gr. of BE. Your mold will likely throw heavier than listed weight depending on your alloy, and I would definitely try a good test batch to check for leading before loading a ton of em. I'd probably start with 5 gr, and move up a little if no prob.

A guy with a bucket of lead, and a bottle of Bullseye will never have problems creating decent ammo for almost any handgun. jd
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Old February 23, 2015, 01:39 PM   #7
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Thanks JD. That is what I am looking for. Now I got somewhere to start from. You are right, the bullets are always heavier than 140 gr. I have a good alloy so they do pretty good with my old loads and I don't get much leading as long as I keep the velocity down.
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Old February 23, 2015, 02:55 PM   #8
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Kinda coincidental that you just brought this up. I just got done casting/sizing/lubing 1000+ of the Lee 125 gr. RNFP, which with my straight WW alloy come out with 131 gr. average.

My next pistol loading project is to find out how fast I can pump them (with Bullseye) before I hit the leading stage. Kind of tryin to get a cast load that has the same POI as the Berry's load I'm using.

I hate to rave on, but I can't say enough about this combination with the Berrys 125 plated SWC. My load must be up around 1200 fps, I've shot a few fifty yard 1" groups,( from a rest), and can pretty much use the same aim point from 0-100 yards. My main gun for these is a 6" 686.
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Old February 23, 2015, 05:20 PM   #9
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Yep good timing on this thread for me as well. I just got done sizing up around 15# worth of 148gr DEWC's from an old Hensley #50 pot belly mold. I picked it up a year or so ago, and have poured a BUNCH of bullets through it. Here is a discussion thread on it with a few pic's,
This one's for you

I'm not sure what wore me out more, casting with that mold, or sizing all those bullets on my little Lee press using the push through sizer.

I have around 2K of 38 SPL brass plus close to or more 357 brass, and will be looking to use up some bulk Bullseye in them both here shortly. I also have a few other little SWC's I plan to load up as well just to have different things to play with. Oh and my bud picked up one of the MP 358640 LITE molds for his 9mm which drops them at 125grs and right on the money at .358". I'll be powder coating some of those to try out as well. I'm thinking they will do good with my 1.75 alloy running over a nice dose of either BE or AA-2.
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Old February 23, 2015, 09:34 PM   #10
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A bronze brush and some solvent will quickly take out any fouling in the chambers if you use 38spl cases.
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Old February 24, 2015, 09:31 AM   #11
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JD... Took you advice and loaded a few at 5 grains. No problem, no leading, feel like a .357 should. Was going to get the chrony out today and work on some more loads but rain and 40 degrees will keep me in the shed.

Thanks again all of you with the great advice. This forum is great.
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Old February 24, 2015, 02:46 PM   #12
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3.0(764 fps) to 4.5(1011 fps) for a cast 140. .357 load out of my old Lyman book.
2.0(568 fps) to 3.7(937 fps) for a .38 Special load.
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