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November 12, 2012, 08:00 PM | #26 |
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And the Le Mat revolver came out in the 1850s.
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November 12, 2012, 08:01 PM | #27 |
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I use to be against the idea of a .410 revolver for defense until I started looking at how handguns are used and the circumstances they were used in defensive encounters,then I looked at what the Judge and then the Governor brought to the table.
I'm sure others will do the same. |
November 12, 2012, 08:55 PM | #28 |
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Here are a few youtube vids with the Governor and the federal 2-1/2 inch '000' buckshot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNFYpWs3yLU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlYXNhJXmXo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_iJ34EHuQs |
November 12, 2012, 09:49 PM | #29 |
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the first two sucks
that is not a very good pattern at 7 yards. the last video is how tight my Governor shoots.
but I do concur that 24 rounds in 3.9 seconds is going to put a heck of a hurt if not fatal exposure to lead. steve |
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Yes the Gov CAN serve as a HD/SD weapon but it is by NO MEANS "THE BEST" weapon.
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November 12, 2012, 11:22 PM | #31 |
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Question: How thick is a hog skull? Answer: two inches of bone.
From 6 feet the buckshot punched through it, much different than a usual point blank shot with the muzzle to the head. Now for another question. What is the thickest bone in the human body? Last edited by Pfletch83; November 12, 2012 at 11:30 PM. |
November 12, 2012, 11:33 PM | #32 |
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I grew up in a farming community where farmers would kill grown cattle with 22lr bullet to the forehead. The cow's legs jerk upward and it dies instantly.
Killing one pig with a head shot proves that shooting a pig in the head with Governor can kill it. It does not prove that the Governor is superior to other firearms. |
November 12, 2012, 11:35 PM | #33 |
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Pfletch.... 6 feet is point blank range for any firearm, and the fact that your .410 punched through a pigs skull is not revolutionary, nor is it as impressive as you seem to think.
We routinely put down pigs with .22 shorts at further ranges than that because our trap has an area of about 25 square yards (225 sq ft) and the pigs get as far away from us as possible. Does it make the .22 short the next great super CCW weapon that people just don't understand yet? No.... Heck, we have had to put down two cows and a horse with the old .22....Guess what? It did the job without a flinch from the animal... |
November 13, 2012, 12:15 AM | #34 |
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Okay then Experts show me the "Best" handgun for self defense.
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November 13, 2012, 12:23 AM | #35 | |
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The fact that you are claiming that this gun is the be-all-end-all is what is so frustrating and even annoying. There are people that come here again thinking that there is one "best" gun out there, and instead of being able to inform them that there is more to it than just face value, that it varies from person to person, they are getting the same thing from you that they will from a know-nothing gun store counter guy. It defeats the purpose of being able to educate people on what it actually takes to choose a good handgun. Is the judge/governor good for a few things? Sure. Is it best at any? Well, I would say killing snakes and other vermin. But there are better options for 99% of people who are looking for a carry gun. |
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November 13, 2012, 12:38 AM | #36 |
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okay then let me narrow this down some....what is the best close range defensive handgun?
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November 13, 2012, 12:39 AM | #37 |
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Is there such a thing as a long-range defensive handgun?
Most defensive handguns are intended for close range. And there still isn't one that's best. Some guns are nice to carry and conceal. Some shoot big bullets. Some shoot fast bullets. Some have high capacity. Some have nice triggers. Some have nice sights. Some have controllable recoil. Some are cheaper to practice with. Some are easier to operate. Some are not picky about ammo. Some guns just feel right or point naturally in a specific person's hand. Last edited by idek; November 13, 2012 at 01:43 AM. |
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2) The one that you are most proficient with And finally, 3) The one that goes *bang* when you pull the trigger. As I said before, there is not one "best" in any category. Last edited by allaroundhunter; November 13, 2012 at 01:04 AM. |
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Warning: Graphic
For those who are curious about hog skulls, here's a link to a thread about them, that includes pictures of a hog's skull sawn in half, cross-section style, plus pictures of a shot hog.
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November 13, 2012, 07:29 AM | #41 |
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Mike - & the Duckfoot sometime before the LeMat.
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November 13, 2012, 08:47 AM | #42 |
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The duckfoot wasn't a revolver.
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November 13, 2012, 09:42 AM | #43 |
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Same concept - one trigger pull = multiple projectiles..
While the LeMat was a revolver...the shotgun was a single shot.. Still - same concept - handgun capable of shooting multiple simultaneous projectiles. Dosn't matter though - both were flops... |
November 13, 2012, 09:47 AM | #44 |
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The only solution to this is a glock 41: a double stack glock that can load .410 rounds or with a different magazine, 45 acp. Then you get the capacity and reliability of a glock, with the undeniable shot-pistol advantage.
I know some people here would be in line for that one!
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November 13, 2012, 10:19 AM | #45 |
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To me, the Governor/Judge seems a but large for concealed carry considering its capacity. It might work better for woods bumming but I'd rather concealed carry a 642 or G26.
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Do you have anything other than anecdotal evidence or opinion that the .410 buckshot load is any better or worse at stopping agression than a single well designed 250gr 45 Colt?
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