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sundance44s · April 16, 2008, 08:31 AM

Another problem with the hand loaders ..they won`t do a full resize on your brass ..at best just the top will be resized ..after reloading a few times your shells will stick in the conversion cylinder and you`ll have to knock them out ..the conversion cylinders are built with tight tollerances , if you do a full case resize the shot cases will fall out in your hand ...just another reason to buy a good loader ...check Midway Lee loaders ..they seem to always have the best deals on the Lee loading equipment .

noelf2 · April 16, 2008, 08:36 AM

Raider - I'm about 5 miles west of Garrisonville (610), off Joshua Road. I'm a member of the IWL also. Shoot there quite a bit, weather permitting. They have a nice archery range but I haven't carried a bow in years. I'd just embarrass myself. Come on out and watch me destroy my remmy with these hand loads!

BTW, I saw on a website how a fellow used a 45lc shell and made some snake shot loads. I figure 15-20 gr bp, over powder dry lubed felt wad, some lead shot, then top it off with a ball. The ball holds in the shot and helps it keep a better pattern. Leading could be a problem.

Raider2000 · April 16, 2008, 09:50 AM

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Raider - I'm about 5 miles west of Garrisonville (610), off Joshua Road. I'm a member of the IWL also. Shoot there quite a bit, weather permitting. They have a nice archery range but I haven't carried a bow in years. I'd just embarrass myself. Come on out and watch me destroy my remmy with these hand loads!

BTW, I saw on a website how a fellow used a 45lc shell and made some snake shot loads. I figure 15-20 gr bp, over powder dry lubed felt wad, some lead shot, then top it off with a ball. The ball holds in the shot and helps it keep a better pattern. Leading could be a problem.

The IWL I'm at is on rt 600 not too far from Rt 20 sortof between Fredericksburg & Culpeper.

A good Shot load that has worked for me in years past for my Remmy is:
15gr. FFFG
over powder wad
using the 15gr. measure, measure out #7 or #9 shot
over shot wad
a little wax over that to keep it all in place.

noelf2 · April 16, 2008, 10:27 AM

Great, thanks for the load info. The IWL I go to is the Alexandria chapter that is actually in Stafford county about 8 miles west of Garrisonville on rt 610. Didn't know there was one out near rt 20, and I thought I knew that area well !

long rider · April 16, 2008, 08:40 PM

HEY can i come?

.

Raider2000 · April 16, 2008, 08:50 PM

Mine is in Spotsylvania, VA

12400 Hernon Rd
Spotsylvania, VA 22553

Very close to each other...

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Originally Posted by long rider

HEY can i come?.

Sure the more the marrier..

noelf2 · April 17, 2008, 07:42 AM

Oh yeah, out near Brock Rd. I have some friends out that way. Does your IWL allow guests to use the ranges? Ours doesn't anymore.

I ordered a lee single stage hand press and a 4 carbide die set for 45lc yesterday. I guess I'm getting a bit paranoid about the crimp over the round ball. I'm determined to try without it though, but can't get to the range quick enough. Work sure gets in the way of range time!

sundance44s · April 17, 2008, 08:08 AM

You`ll be glad you spent the extra bucks for the carbide die set ...they`ll last alot longer .....makes a good neck crimp too ..looks like a factory crimp .
Case sizeing will be easyer with the carbide die too .

Raider2000 · April 17, 2008, 09:29 AM

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Oh yeah, out near Brock Rd. I have some friends out that way. Does your IWL allow guests to use the ranges? Ours doesn't anymore.

I ordered a lee single stage hand press and a 4 carbide die set for 45lc yesterday. I guess I'm getting a bit paranoid about the crimp over the round ball. I'm determined to try without it though, but can't get to the range quick enough. Work sure gets in the way of range time!

I've heard conflicting info in that subject, there is I'm sure still a lot of members bringing friends over & stuff though...

one day I'll buy my self a R&D conversion cylinder for one of my Pietta 1858's & ofcorse buy a .45 colt die set because I'm too cheap to buy factory but so much...

long rider · April 17, 2008, 05:54 PM

Raider, do it, youll not regret it, i did, and i load my
owen 45s as well.

noelf2 · April 19, 2008, 06:25 PM

Range report...

I finally went to the range and shot the 10 rounds of uncrimped handloaded 45lc cartridges. I loaded 5 rounds in my r&d cylinder and fired one, took the cylinder out and checked the rest of the cartridges and none crept out of the uncrimped cartridge even a little bit. Accuracy was good too, 2 inches low and left of the bull at 15 yards. So I fired 2 more. Checked for creep again, and the remaining two cartridges were just as they were when I loaded them. Accuracy was still very good. Fired the other 2 for effect, still hitting around the bull. Then something happened that really pissed me off. I put the other 5 cartridges in the cylinder and let my wife fire them (for some reason she wanted to - I checked the cartridges for creep after two shots, still no problems, not worried any more at that point). Her accuracy was better than mine

She was spot on at 15 yards with the first 4 rounds, so I moved the target out to 25 yards. She hit 2 inches to the left of the bull. I'm still not hearing the end of it. All in all I'm very happy with these.

long rider · April 19, 2008, 07:08 PM

Well i am glad it turned out right for you.
obtw thats why i dont take my wife out
shooting, just in case.

Hawg · April 19, 2008, 07:15 PM

When I was dating my first wife I decided to teach her to shoot. She whupped me.........................really bad. Never try to teach a country girl to shoot. She already can.

long rider · April 19, 2008, 07:18 PM

Hey pard, i hope i am not to blame for you spending
bucks on a die set, i was only telling you of my prob,s
i had.

noelf2 · April 20, 2008, 08:36 AM

No wasted money really. I'm expecting I'll have to resize the cases anyway. I'm sure they expanded quite a bit after the 36 gr bp loads (impressive recoil). The .451 balls might not fit as snug anymore. I also want to start playing with my own CAS loads using smokeless powder, so I'll need all of the dies eventually. At any rate, I think I'll take these bp handloads hunting with me next time. If I can get a 25-30 yard shot, I'm sure I could hit a deer in the vitals.

April 16, 2008, 08:40 PM	#30
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	HEY can i come?. __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.

April 17, 2008, 05:54 PM	#35
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	Raider, do it, youll not regret it, i did, and i load my owen 45s as well. __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.

April 19, 2008, 07:08 PM	#37
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	Well i am glad it turned out right for you. obtw thats why i dont take my wife out shooting, just in case. __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.

April 19, 2008, 07:18 PM	#39
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	Hey pard, i hope i am not to blame for you spending bucks on a die set, i was only telling you of my prob,s i had. __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.

April 16, 2008, 08:31 AM	#26
sundance44s Senior Member Join Date: February 6, 2006 Location: Hernando , Ms. Posts: 579	Another problem with the hand loaders ..they won`t do a full resize on your brass ..at best just the top will be resized ..after reloading a few times your shells will stick in the conversion cylinder and you`ll have to knock them out ..the conversion cylinders are built with tight tollerances , if you do a full case resize the shot cases will fall out in your hand ...just another reason to buy a good loader ...check Midway Lee loaders ..they seem to always have the best deals on the Lee loading equipment .

April 16, 2008, 08:36 AM	#27
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	Raider - I'm about 5 miles west of Garrisonville (610), off Joshua Road. I'm a member of the IWL also. Shoot there quite a bit, weather permitting. They have a nice archery range but I haven't carried a bow in years. I'd just embarrass myself. Come on out and watch me destroy my remmy with these hand loads! BTW, I saw on a website how a fellow used a 45lc shell and made some snake shot loads. I figure 15-20 gr bp, over powder dry lubed felt wad, some lead shot, then top it off with a ball. The ball holds in the shot and helps it keep a better pattern. Leading could be a problem.

April 16, 2008, 10:27 AM	#29
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	Great, thanks for the load info. The IWL I go to is the Alexandria chapter that is actually in Stafford county about 8 miles west of Garrisonville on rt 610. Didn't know there was one out near rt 20, and I thought I knew that area well !

April 17, 2008, 07:42 AM	#32
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	Oh yeah, out near Brock Rd. I have some friends out that way. Does your IWL allow guests to use the ranges? Ours doesn't anymore. I ordered a lee single stage hand press and a 4 carbide die set for 45lc yesterday. I guess I'm getting a bit paranoid about the crimp over the round ball. I'm determined to try without it though, but can't get to the range quick enough. Work sure gets in the way of range time!

April 17, 2008, 08:08 AM	#33
sundance44s Senior Member Join Date: February 6, 2006 Location: Hernando , Ms. Posts: 579	You`ll be glad you spent the extra bucks for the carbide die set ...they`ll last alot longer .....makes a good neck crimp too ..looks like a factory crimp . Case sizeing will be easyer with the carbide die too .

April 19, 2008, 06:25 PM	#36
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	Range report... I finally went to the range and shot the 10 rounds of uncrimped handloaded 45lc cartridges. I loaded 5 rounds in my r&d cylinder and fired one, took the cylinder out and checked the rest of the cartridges and none crept out of the uncrimped cartridge even a little bit. Accuracy was good too, 2 inches low and left of the bull at 15 yards. So I fired 2 more. Checked for creep again, and the remaining two cartridges were just as they were when I loaded them. Accuracy was still very good. Fired the other 2 for effect, still hitting around the bull. Then something happened that really pissed me off. I put the other 5 cartridges in the cylinder and let my wife fire them (for some reason she wanted to - I checked the cartridges for creep after two shots, still no problems, not worried any more at that point). Her accuracy was better than mine She was spot on at 15 yards with the first 4 rounds, so I moved the target out to 25 yards. She hit 2 inches to the left of the bull. I'm still not hearing the end of it. All in all I'm very happy with these.

April 19, 2008, 07:15 PM	#38
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	When I was dating my first wife I decided to teach her to shoot. She whupped me.........................really bad. Never try to teach a country girl to shoot. She already can.

April 20, 2008, 08:36 AM	#40
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	No wasted money really. I'm expecting I'll have to resize the cases anyway. I'm sure they expanded quite a bit after the 36 gr bp loads (impressive recoil). The .451 balls might not fit as snug anymore. I also want to start playing with my own CAS loads using smokeless powder, so I'll need all of the dies eventually. At any rate, I think I'll take these bp handloads hunting with me next time. If I can get a 25-30 yard shot, I'm sure I could hit a deer in the vitals.