elk load in 7-08?

labgrade · September 15, 2000, 12:53 AM

OK. I'll bite on the "X big enough for the critter?" bandwagon.

The Wife'll be using a M7, 18.5" bbl in 7-08 for elk.

No access to chrono but 120s have been clocked at 2600fps - certainly not blazing by any standards.

I've a preliminary load using Barnes XBTs @140 grs & it's pushing max loading per standard tables but no clue as to velocity.
All my reloading manuals are using bbls of 22-24" - not the l'il stubby thing we have.
I'm suspecting we're getting right around 2400 fps - but, just a guess.

Shots will be under 200yds.

I've got warm vibes re Barnes Xs & some experience with them in other calibers.

BTW, The Wife's got a cow tag so we're not talking about any B&C 6-bys here - moreso an elk up to ~400lbs or so.

My thinking is that although not under-gunned, this is a bit on the light side.

Checking up on the results of The Seven on elk (even with handguns & resultant lower velocities), it seems to do the trick with proper placement (always the key).

Comments? Reassurances?

Paul B. · September 15, 2000, 01:34 PM

Labgrade. I don't use the 7-08 but I do use a 7x57 mauser which is pretty much the same thing ballistically. A load I like is the 154 gr. Hornady Interlock at 2500 FPS. Looking at Hornady's newest manual, you should be able to come close to that or even a bit better, even with your shorter barrel. They show a max load of H-414 giving 2700 FPS. Allowing for your shorter barrel, 2500 plus FPS should be attainable. They even show thw the 162 gr. BTSP reaching 2700 FPS.
I'm not too much of a fan of premium bullets. The one time I used some, they failed me miserably. I got the deer, but five shots, four of which would have be fatal almost instantly had I be using my regular deer load, rather than the elk load with a premium bullet. (Both my deer load and elk load use a 180 gr. bullet at 2700 FPS in a 30-06. I was out of deer loads and didn't have time to load any on the last day of the season.)
At the velocity the 7-08 and 7x57 are capable of reaching, it seems to me that a conventional bullet should be more than capable of bringing an elk down. I'm planning on using the 7x57 for both deer and elk this year. I'll use either a 139/140 gr. for deer and a 150/160 gr. for elk. I'm scheduled for some surgery in 5 days, and I will probably have to keep recoil on the light side this year.
Good luck on your hunt, and I hope your wife fills out her tag.
Paul B.

bk40 · September 16, 2000, 12:11 AM

labgrade,

I shoot a m7 also in 7-08. Best results have been with 130gr XBTs and Varget powder.

STEVE M · September 16, 2000, 07:20 AM

Paul B is right. With a 154 Hornaday I'm getting 2550 out of a 22" barrel and am still a 1/2 grain below max. with H-380.

September 15, 2000, 12:53 AM	#1
labgrade Member In Memoriam Join Date: November 29, 1999 Location: west of a small town, CO Posts: 4,346	OK. I'll bite on the "X big enough for the critter?" bandwagon. The Wife'll be using a M7, 18.5" bbl in 7-08 for elk. No access to chrono but 120s have been clocked at 2600fps - certainly not blazing by any standards. I've a preliminary load using Barnes XBTs @140 grs & it's pushing max loading per standard tables but no clue as to velocity. All my reloading manuals are using bbls of 22-24" - not the l'il stubby thing we have. I'm suspecting we're getting right around 2400 fps - but, just a guess. Shots will be under 200yds. I've got warm vibes re Barnes Xs & some experience with them in other calibers. BTW, The Wife's got a cow tag so we're not talking about any B&C 6-bys here - moreso an elk up to ~400lbs or so. My thinking is that although not under-gunned, this is a bit on the light side. Checking up on the results of The Seven on elk (even with handguns & resultant lower velocities), it seems to do the trick with proper placement (always the key). Comments? Reassurances?

September 15, 2000, 01:34 PM	#2
Paul B. Senior Member Join Date: March 28, 1999 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,802	Labgrade. I don't use the 7-08 but I do use a 7x57 mauser which is pretty much the same thing ballistically. A load I like is the 154 gr. Hornady Interlock at 2500 FPS. Looking at Hornady's newest manual, you should be able to come close to that or even a bit better, even with your shorter barrel. They show a max load of H-414 giving 2700 FPS. Allowing for your shorter barrel, 2500 plus FPS should be attainable. They even show thw the 162 gr. BTSP reaching 2700 FPS. I'm not too much of a fan of premium bullets. The one time I used some, they failed me miserably. I got the deer, but five shots, four of which would have be fatal almost instantly had I be using my regular deer load, rather than the elk load with a premium bullet. (Both my deer load and elk load use a 180 gr. bullet at 2700 FPS in a 30-06. I was out of deer loads and didn't have time to load any on the last day of the season.) At the velocity the 7-08 and 7x57 are capable of reaching, it seems to me that a conventional bullet should be more than capable of bringing an elk down. I'm planning on using the 7x57 for both deer and elk this year. I'll use either a 139/140 gr. for deer and a 150/160 gr. for elk. I'm scheduled for some surgery in 5 days, and I will probably have to keep recoil on the light side this year. Good luck on your hunt, and I hope your wife fills out her tag. Paul B.

September 16, 2000, 12:11 AM	#3
bk40 Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 1999 Location: Mississippi Posts: 1,004	labgrade, I shoot a m7 also in 7-08. Best results have been with 130gr XBTs and Varget powder.

September 16, 2000, 07:20 AM	#4
STEVE M Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 1999 Location: TN. USA Posts: 607	Paul B is right. With a 154 Hornaday I'm getting 2550 out of a 22" barrel and am still a 1/2 grain below max. with H-380.