April 27, 2013, 06:38 AM | #1 |
Senior Member
Join Date: April 4, 2012
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 2,217
|
Shopping for a 357
Im filling my permits (NJ) and I want my next one to be a 357. Looking for some suggestions or pros and cons. Unless I really find a deal I am going to count Colt out, they tend to run more than I want to spend. Im thinking around $500 for a used gun. If its something really special (like a Colt or DW pistol pac) I might go up to $1000. I want a blued gun, double action with 4-6" barrel. I dont have any need to fill with this gun other than to fill a permit. And I dont have a 357, the only revolver I own is a 460. Also I tend to by middle to upper middle grade not for price alone.
__________________
Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it. Milton Freidman "If you find yourself in a fair fight,,, Your tactics suck"- Unknown |
April 27, 2013, 06:49 AM | #2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 27, 2013
Posts: 151
|
ruger black hawk (if you can find one you could get a convertible that comes with a 9 mm cylinder) or a gp100 or any smith and wesson.i wanted a RBH or GP and found a good deal on a Blackhawk and it is a shooter for sure. myself my mini collection is going to be,,, a single action, Blackhawk / a double action, super redhawk in 44 / and last a semi auto, ruger 1911.
|
April 27, 2013, 07:07 AM | #3 |
Senior Member
Join Date: June 1, 2009
Location: MN
Posts: 656
|
357 is probably my favorite caliber. Sounds like you already have a really good idea of what you want. The GP100 is a great choice for a new one. A new Smith will cost more than what you are looking to spend, but there are plenty of good used ones. I have a couple Dan Wessons and they are outstanding. The older Ruger Security Six or Police Six would also be a great choice. People here keep saying you can pick those up for 3-4 hundred bucks, but I don't know where they keep seeing those. I haven't seen one at any of the gunstores I go to for many years.
Like Rob mentioned, don't discount the Single actions (unless you've already shot some and don't like them). But I'd recommend trying one out, you may fall it love with it. |
April 27, 2013, 09:21 AM | #4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 17, 2013
Location: Louisville, KY, USA
Posts: 273
|
Second the Security Six, wish I still had the one I foolishly let get away some years ago. Fine gun. If you plan to practice mostly with .38 Special and fewer .357 loads, there are good Smith 19's to be had pretty reasonably, and they are great revolvers--I love K-frames. Used 586's are available too, but they seem to be fewer and more expensive from what I'm hearing.
__________________
"Don't let macho be your epitaph." ---Ed Lovette |
April 27, 2013, 09:52 AM | #5 |
Senior Member
Join Date: August 17, 2012
Posts: 159
|
In that price range you may want to look at a S&W Model 19. A classic K frame revolver with great reviews.
|
April 27, 2013, 10:08 AM | #6 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: August 17, 2008
Location: Montana
Posts: 640
|
I've found several Security Sixes all under $350. Fine shooters and built Ruger tough.
Quote:
__________________
Gun permit?? A bread crumb tossed to a sleeping society awoken by the sound of complacency. "They are for your own good", and "you will understand when you see all the lives they save". Yes master, what else will you toss me from your bag of infringements?? Do you want me to roll over and play dead? I do that very well. --skidder |
|
April 27, 2013, 11:51 AM | #7 |
Senior Member
Join Date: August 17, 2005
Location: Stillwater Oklahoma
Posts: 790
|
Get a Smith k frame. My first was a m28
|
April 27, 2013, 11:54 AM | #8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 23, 2009
Posts: 1,624
|
The Security Six is a great handgun but I think what the OP is looking for is a Smith and Wesson Model 19 with a 4'' barrel.
|
April 27, 2013, 12:07 PM | #9 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 2, 2007
Location: Missouri
Posts: 8,306
|
The S&W Model 19 4". A classic 357 Magnum!
__________________
Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING! |
April 27, 2013, 12:15 PM | #10 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 21, 2005
Posts: 247
|
I favor the 586. I prefer the full lug barrel and I own then in 4" and 6". Bought both new last year. S&W calls then 586 Classics, check out their web site.
|
April 27, 2013, 04:01 PM | #11 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 6, 2012
Location: Longview, WA
Posts: 214
|
I love my GP100 6 inch SS, But after buying my S&W Model 36 I am gonna be keeping my eyes out for a S&W .357.
__________________
There is no such thing as Overkill, Dead is Dead! |
April 27, 2013, 04:43 PM | #12 |
Junior Member
Join Date: February 5, 2010
Posts: 3
|
I'd recommend you give a look at 4 and 6 inch S&W model 28. Maybe the best quality/value available right now.
|
April 27, 2013, 05:13 PM | #13 |
Senior Member
Join Date: April 4, 2012
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 2,217
|
I would love to look at all these revolvers. Problem is I am limited to buying in NJ. And second, a blued 357 is like finding a flying pink unicorn. When I was looking for a used 460 there were 357 in ever store.
I have heard that some 357's are not capable of shooting full house mag loads all the time. Which ones would have that issue?
__________________
Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it. Milton Freidman "If you find yourself in a fair fight,,, Your tactics suck"- Unknown |
April 27, 2013, 05:15 PM | #14 |
Junior member
Join Date: May 1, 2010
Posts: 5,797
|
Ruger GP100 Talo version(Wiley Clapp)...
Good .357magnum revolvers include the Ruger SP101 & the mid frame GP100 series.
The rare limited ed Talo/Wiley Clapp version is a great value. You may find a few online; www.gunsamerica.com www.gunsinternational.com . I saw a used Ruger Talo .357magnum at a gun shop in Norwalk CT. It wasn't cheap but will hold its value. A S&W M&P R8(used by the elite ESU of the NYPD) is a good idea but they are costly & the huge N frame size. ClydeFrog |
April 27, 2013, 09:17 PM | #15 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: July 28, 2007
Location: Ohio
Posts: 11,755
|
Quote:
BoogieMan, the K-frame magnums are the ones that have the reputation. It's a grand debate about "how much" it takes to bust one, and which specific ammo it takes, but your Model 13, 19, 65, 66 are the ones that may give up with extended full-bore Magnum ammo. That's -NO- good reason to avoid one, these are some of the greatest handguns over to grace the planet. (FWIW, I too rarely see any Speed/Security/Service Sixes in my circles. And YEP, I look for them!)
__________________
Attention Brass rats and other reloaders: I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss. |
|
April 28, 2013, 05:40 PM | #16 |
Senior Member
Join Date: March 15, 2009
Location: Escondido, CA
Posts: 961
|
|
April 28, 2013, 05:51 PM | #17 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 13, 2005
Posts: 4,700
|
I have seen the K-frame S&W .357s described as ".38s that can shoot .357s" S&W developed their L-frame to look like-and compete with-the Colt Python.
A good used Ruger Security Six-better to have adjustable sights IMHO-and a Dan Wesson are good choices. I live in NJ,I know what you mean about the permit hassle. |
April 28, 2013, 07:10 PM | #18 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 3, 2009
Location: Not close enough to the beach
Posts: 1,477
|
Quote:
|
|
April 28, 2013, 09:13 PM | #19 |
Junior member
Join Date: May 1, 2010
Posts: 5,797
|
Smith & Wesson lawyer locks....
Bear in mind that many modern S&W DA revolvers have the stupid "lawyer locks" .
Many gunners do not like them & some have had problems with magnum loads. CF |
April 28, 2013, 09:21 PM | #20 |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 6, 2011
Location: Burien,WA
Posts: 897
|
there are only two logical choices a GP-100 or Security Six, can shoot anything from Cowboy to Oh Boy.
__________________
Rugers:SR1911 CMD,MK 3 .22lr 6",Sec. Six '76 liberty .357 4",SRH .480 Ruger 7.5",Mini-14 188 5.56/.233 18.5", Marlins: 795 .22lr 16.5",30aw 30-30 20",Mossberg:Mav. 88 Tact. 12 ga, 18.5",ATR 100 .270 Win. 22",S&W:SW9VE 9mm 4",Springfield:XD .357sig 4", AKs:CAI PSL-54C, WASR 10/63, WW74,SLR-106c |
April 28, 2013, 09:27 PM | #21 |
Junior member
Join Date: January 21, 2013
Location: NY
Posts: 150
|
Do yourself a favor and get an older Colt Python or older S&W N frame, either with a 4" barrel. Stay away from Ruger, they're crude.
|
April 28, 2013, 10:30 PM | #22 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 6, 2012
Location: Longview, WA
Posts: 214
|
Ruger crude? Need a little breaking in that's all, never met a Ruger that didn't go bang every time.
__________________
There is no such thing as Overkill, Dead is Dead! |
April 28, 2013, 11:58 PM | #23 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 17, 2007
Location: WI
Posts: 621
|
I have a 4" Security-Six in the pipeline right now, to go with my 6" I already have. I paid $450 for this new addition.
|
April 29, 2013, 04:20 AM | #24 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: July 1, 2001
Posts: 6,310
|
Quote:
Or a 586 if you want to shoot a lot of heavy loaded 357 mag. |
|
April 29, 2013, 05:16 AM | #25 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2010
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 3,318
|
Consider the Colt Trooper. It is out of print so it may go up like other Colts and yet is not too expensive yet. Know that you need to use snap caps if you get one. Check out the thread on them right now.
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|