light 20 ga load

Bruno2 · October 25, 2009, 11:09 AM

My 12 yr old is just started a schoolastic clay target program at the gun club . He has a 20 ga 1187 youth model . I have a 366 Hornady reloader that Is set up for 20 ga . I have got him started learning how to use it and getting him familiar with reloading his own shotshells . I do keep a close eye on him while he is using it to insure that the shells are being reloaded properly and not a chance of a double charge . He knows the rules of a squib and what it takes to get a stuck wad out . He hasnt hit a squib yet and thats great .

My question is this I have him loading 7/8 oz of shot , 14gr (the bushing really drops 13.7 gr) of green dot , a win WAA20 wad and or the cb equivalent , win 209 primer , AA hull . This load is supposed to get about 1155 fps and it was the lightest load I could find in my book . He has been complaining about how hard the gun is hitting his cheek . He went through about 2 boxes of shells yesterday and towards the end his scores were dropping off some and I think he was getting flinchy from the recoil . I have been looking for a lighter 7/8 oz load and have not been able to find one using the green dot . What would happen if I reduced the powder charge about a full grain down to around 13 gr ?

.45 COLT · October 25, 2009, 09:52 PM

According to my 2004 Alliant book, with your combination of components:

11.2 Grains of Green Dot for 1,050 FPS

They don't list any Green Dot loads in the AA hull and a WAA20 wad for any velocity over the 1,050 FPS.

DC

Shoney · October 25, 2009, 10:23 PM

The problem has more to do with the fit of the stock, not the load. Get a knowledgable person (perhaps the teacher of the class) to check the fit. It may be too long or too short, or simply have the wrong drop.

Bruno2 · October 26, 2009, 02:55 PM

you know what colt . I have been looking in every load book that I have except for the Alliant book . I am loading aliant powder so it only makes sense to look in that book . I have the 2004 edition also and there it was just as you said .

Thanks ,somebody should have just posted pull your head out !

Bruno2 · October 26, 2009, 02:57 PM

I also got a slip on recoil pad for the butstock to see if the offset will help his cheek any , if not than I may take the factory recoil pad off the buttstock to see if shortening the LOP helps any .

October 25, 2009, 11:09 AM	#1
Bruno2 Senior Member Join Date: August 7, 2009 Location: Not saying b/c I dont want any of you crazy people to rob or kill me. Alright it's Tulsa , Oklahoma Posts: 224	light 20 ga load My 12 yr old is just started a schoolastic clay target program at the gun club . He has a 20 ga 1187 youth model . I have a 366 Hornady reloader that Is set up for 20 ga . I have got him started learning how to use it and getting him familiar with reloading his own shotshells . I do keep a close eye on him while he is using it to insure that the shells are being reloaded properly and not a chance of a double charge . He knows the rules of a squib and what it takes to get a stuck wad out . He hasnt hit a squib yet and thats great . My question is this I have him loading 7/8 oz of shot , 14gr (the bushing really drops 13.7 gr) of green dot , a win WAA20 wad and or the cb equivalent , win 209 primer , AA hull . This load is supposed to get about 1155 fps and it was the lightest load I could find in my book . He has been complaining about how hard the gun is hitting his cheek . He went through about 2 boxes of shells yesterday and towards the end his scores were dropping off some and I think he was getting flinchy from the recoil . I have been looking for a lighter 7/8 oz load and have not been able to find one using the green dot . What would happen if I reduced the powder charge about a full grain down to around 13 gr ?

October 25, 2009, 10:23 PM	#3
Shoney Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2002 Location: Transplanted from Montana Posts: 2,311	The problem has more to do with the fit of the stock, not the load. Get a knowledgable person (perhaps the teacher of the class) to check the fit. It may be too long or too short, or simply have the wrong drop. __________________ I pledge allegiance to the Flag - - -, and to the Republic for which it stands….Our Forefathers were brilliant for giving us a Republic, not a democracy! Do you know the difference??? and WHY?http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue...les.asp?id=111

October 25, 2009, 09:52 PM	#2
.45 COLT Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 2004 Posts: 308	According to my 2004 Alliant book, with your combination of components: 11.2 Grains of Green Dot for 1,050 FPS They don't list any Green Dot loads in the AA hull and a WAA20 wad for any velocity over the 1,050 FPS. DC

October 26, 2009, 02:55 PM	#4
Bruno2 Senior Member Join Date: August 7, 2009 Location: Not saying b/c I dont want any of you crazy people to rob or kill me. Alright it's Tulsa , Oklahoma Posts: 224	you know what colt . I have been looking in every load book that I have except for the Alliant book . I am loading aliant powder so it only makes sense to look in that book . I have the 2004 edition also and there it was just as you said . Thanks ,somebody should have just posted pull your head out !

October 26, 2009, 02:57 PM	#5
Bruno2 Senior Member Join Date: August 7, 2009 Location: Not saying b/c I dont want any of you crazy people to rob or kill me. Alright it's Tulsa , Oklahoma Posts: 224	I also got a slip on recoil pad for the butstock to see if the offset will help his cheek any , if not than I may take the factory recoil pad off the buttstock to see if shortening the LOP helps any .