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December 8, 2009, 08:20 AM | #1 | |
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If anyone needed a reminder on gun saftey in the home
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December 8, 2009, 08:52 AM | #2 |
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Awful thing to happen. With all the education available and publicity going out, it still amazes me that an adult would leave a loaded gun when there is a small child in the house. This is an inexcusable event.
In all likelihood, both the child and grandparent will be paying the mental anguish of this event for years to come. If you have a gun and a child in the same house, the gun must be securely locked or put in a safe. The gun must be empty and the ammo put in another area, well away from the same room as the gun. It does not seem like a difficult task. It prevents tragedy of this nature.
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December 8, 2009, 09:49 AM | #3 |
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I had a co-worker at one time I hung out with. He had a couple of pistols. He was extremely careless with them. He would wave them around, they were out in the open loaded all the time. He had two young boys he had won custody of from the mother. Both the boys had been sexually abused by her and her bf. He was taking them to school one day. One of the boys got his loaded 9mm from the floor board, he would just lay it there as he drove. It had slid to the floorboard at the back seat. The older child got and was playing with it. He ended up shooting his younger brother in the head, killing him. It was a terrible tragedy that should have never happened. I told him time and again to get a safe, to not keep them loaded. It got to the point I wouldn't go to his house or ride anywhere with him for fear of my own safety. So sad, especially since these things are so easily avoided.
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December 8, 2009, 11:11 AM | #4 | |
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As we have heard time and time again, in some far away place to total strangers.....far too little, far too late. |
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December 8, 2009, 11:22 AM | #5 | |
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None of the facts in that article imply good things about the current or historical decision making wisdom of this family. Having a loaded gun where the child could reach it is likely the latest in a long list of less than poor decisions.
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December 8, 2009, 11:27 AM | #6 |
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sorry peetza, my second post was another story about someone I knew personally. The father in that story did end up serving jail time. The remaining child was placed into foster care.
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December 8, 2009, 03:50 PM | #8 |
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Sorry for the confusion, meant to reference to whom I was referring.
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December 8, 2009, 06:14 PM | #10 |
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Anybody else notice this happened in California? Isn't that the state with all the laws that make guns safer? Like the locks on handguns?
Sorry for the kid and his family. If kids are around and I'm not carrying it on me at home the pistol goes into the biometric gunvault. Safety is no accident |
December 9, 2009, 03:04 AM | #11 | |
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December 9, 2009, 07:14 AM | #12 |
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Yeah, you weapon should AWAYS be in your control. On your person, or in a safe. Both places your in control.
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December 9, 2009, 08:51 AM | #13 |
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Very sad. I didn't have a safe when my kids were 3. Loaded guns in the house and never a tragedy. By age 3 my kids could already recite the 4 gun rules of safety, tho I still didn't trust them at this age. Point being is that if you care enough and leave nothing to chance...these incidents can be avoided.
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December 9, 2009, 11:50 AM | #14 |
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Education... the best you can do for your kids. I, myself, have an eight yo daughter. although my guns are always locked in safe, unless they are on my person, my daughter gets educated on them and the safety of them. She knows not to touch them without my permission. She KNOWS if she is over at a friends, and there is a gun, to get away and tell a parent. Then call me so I can go kick some a$$ (kidding!).
I have an airsoft pistol that we shoot in the basement. Next summer, I plan on taking her to the range and try a 22lr for the first time. I'm going to buy those CB's (?), the ones that are excelerated my primer only. I'm sure she'll have fun! It's always a tragedy when you hear something like this happening to a child. Most of the time, its just the plain neglegence of the parent or adult. If you have guns in the home, or relatives/friends that do... I think the best thing you can do is educate your child on the safety of firearms.....
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December 9, 2009, 03:21 PM | #16 |
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There are very few things that when I hear, I actually get nauseous. Stories like this are on that list. It is a real tragedy and every time I hear of one, I want to re-double my efforts to ensure all my gun related belongings are secure.
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December 9, 2009, 04:27 PM | #17 |
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I read the above and went right out and bought some trigger locks to use when the grandkids are around. They're still pretty small but it won't be long til they're big enough to get into things. I've been putting my handguns in my little safe when I know the younguns are coming over, but my shotgun, which won't fit in my safe (I keep seven in the tube but none chambered) is hung up high in my bedroom closet. I know my grandsons will figure out a way to get to it. Anyway, this thread was a good reminder that we all need to be REALLY safe with our firearms, especially when kids are around.
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December 9, 2009, 04:35 PM | #18 |
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if there are kids in the area around me, even if I am carrying, i put the safety on just in case. if i am at home i will just carry it to make sure i know where it is.
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December 9, 2009, 04:50 PM | #19 |
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Education and common sense are essential. It's sad when things like this happen. The family is very fortunate that the child survived. Many families aren't so lucky.
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January 9, 2010, 11:26 PM | #20 |
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We all need a little reminder every now and then. My Daily carry weapon is the only one that's not stored in my safe. It's normally on my bedside table or on my person. I don't have young kids at home but we have several garndkids that visit often. They all know that "Papa" has a gun and that he carries it all the time. Whenever they are in the house, I engage the lock (another reason why I love my Rossi ) and it is placed in the top of my closet out of everybody's reach. One key is on my keyring, which is always on my person and the spare is also locked in the safe. They also know that our bedroom is of limits unless my wife or myself are with them. All of my other guns are locked in the safe. There will be no accidents in this house, at least not with any firearms. Now, kids falling down the stairs.....
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Criminal Storage of a Firearm in California
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So, someone in the OP is guilty of criminal storage of a firearm in the first degree and will lose their right to own a gun. They will also spend at least a year in jail. The only hope is the getting off because they did not "know or reasonably should know that a child ..." Also, for the empty/loaded chamber argument, this applies in California: Quote:
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