Knock off ACOG or HOLO help

G.I.DAVE · July 30, 2012, 03:09 PM

Hello,

Ive seen alot of these Knock off ACOGs, and HOLO sights for my AR.
I dont have the kind of cash for a TRUE Trijicon now so I have been looking at some of the Knock offs.

Does anyone have any of these? Care to share your experience or recommend one for my AR?

Thanks!

Creeper · July 30, 2012, 03:53 PM

Not really.

The "knock-offers" hope the prospective buyer is more interested in the ACOG look than the actual quality and function. I think they sell lots of them to AirSoft, paintball and replica gun folks.

I can't recommend because I don't know what your max $$$ is. If it's real low, I probably can't recommend at all.

Cheers,
C

G.I.DAVE · July 30, 2012, 03:59 PM

I understand.

I had done some searching and there seem to be some positive reviews from guys that just wanted some glass, that looked nice, and worked decent, for plinking. Sometimes I dont trust reviews from the same page as the seller..

There are a few im looking at, one is a KO ACOG and its right under $200.

I would LOVE to own a real one. I got to play with several REAL trijicon scopes at a 2A day shoot, and i fell in love. I know there are some "budget" aimpoints too. I might look that way

cslinger · July 30, 2012, 04:03 PM

For around $200 bucks you could get an ULTRA Dot which is a pretty darn good dot optic. Much better then the Airsoft knockoff stuff.

Creeper · July 30, 2012, 04:15 PM

Plus 1 with cslinger... 2 bills will get you a pretty darn good holo.

Cheers,
C

G.I.DAVE · July 30, 2012, 04:21 PM

http://www.ultradotusa.com/

These?

Any models you have or used that work real well?

G.I.DAVE · July 30, 2012, 04:23 PM

http://www.ultradotusa.com/ultradotdist2010_009.htm

WOW. That Ultradot 6 is pretty sweet. The KO Acogs I have been looking at are all around $200...When you guys said airsoft, That killed it for me.

G.I.DAVE · July 30, 2012, 04:25 PM

http://www.ultradotusa.com/ultradotdist2010_007.htm

OK...now THAT is cool. and a lifetime warranty? I think im starting to like this idea.

Have you used Ultradots before? Any good?

THANKS GUYS!

Creeper · July 30, 2012, 04:28 PM

Sorry... I was thinking more along the lines of a Burris Fastfire Holo.

For an AR, I like a little holo because you have the option of mounting it in a 45 degree offset and run a actual magnifying rifle scope on top in a QD.

Cheers,

G.I.DAVE · July 30, 2012, 04:39 PM

That Burris is SWEET. I really like the sleek look. In my price range too.

Im an "entry" AR guy. I have got to shoot alot of them, and played with alot of the new scopes, but I kinda new to all the new high tech stuff.

My buddy had an AR, with a Trijicon, and a holo sight. If he flipped a switch, the scope swiveled off to the side so the Holo was only there. It was real neat. Im gunna have to try and get a hold of him to find out what kind of set up that was.

The AR I have is a long model. Full length barrel, solid stock. Thats what I wanted. I will be plinking things outside, no hardcore target shooting, No greater than 200 yards, mostly in the 75-125 yard range. Thats why I was thinking more of one of the light maginification ACOG type scopes.

Unless im way off, point me to a low cost scope that would work for me, I would prefer a "dot" type. That worked VERY well for me. His Trijicon was top notch...I was blown away with the quality and clarity of that piece.

Scorch · July 31, 2012, 02:29 AM

Best I can recommend is the Bushnell holo and red dots. Pretty good quality, pretty good price. Can you find cheaper? Sure, but do you want one?
http://www.bushnell.com/products/sco...reddot/730005/
http://www.bushnell.com/products/sco...eddot/730232P/

impalacustom · July 31, 2012, 03:20 AM

Buy once, cry once. Words to live buy when buying quality.

cannonfire · July 31, 2012, 11:21 AM

If you want a red dot, I recommend the Vortec Sparq. Small and works great and is $200. It comes with a screw on magnifier

Lloyd Smale · August 1, 2012, 05:06 AM

another vote for the strike fire. Ive got two and other then less battery life they seem to be every bit as good as my aimpoints.

CommonSense · August 3, 2012, 06:07 AM

Hey, being that Ive carried both on missions in Afghanistan and put hundeds of rounds down range with both, I understand your fondness of the two. I prefer the ACOG over the Holographic sight personally, however. Both are versatile durable optics (if you will).
For an alternative, I would NOT reccomend a "knock off". The clones are weak and do not have precise static lines for measuring and adjusting your outgoing. I would strongly reccomend you look into the Leupold VX-R Patrol optics they have to offer for an alternative to the ACOG. Also, Leupold has the new Delta Point red dot sight made with a magnesium outter housing, making it very tough for rugged work. If you are in the military, you can get the 40% off military discout EASILY. With discount it becomes the most affordable quality non-knock off alternative. If your not in the military, they are still worth their full value and can be found cheaper than on their website.

July 30, 2012, 03:09 PM	#1
G.I.DAVE Member Join Date: July 21, 2012 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 26	Knock off ACOG or HOLO help Hello, Ive seen alot of these Knock off ACOGs, and HOLO sights for my AR. I dont have the kind of cash for a TRUE Trijicon now so I have been looking at some of the Knock offs. Does anyone have any of these? Care to share your experience or recommend one for my AR? Thanks!

July 30, 2012, 03:53 PM	#2
Creeper Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2008 Location: Woooooshington Posts: 1,797	Not really. The "knock-offers" hope the prospective buyer is more interested in the ACOG look than the actual quality and function. I think they sell lots of them to AirSoft, paintball and replica gun folks. I can't recommend because I don't know what your max $$$ is. If it's real low, I probably can't recommend at all. Cheers, C __________________ Shoulder Drive Nicholson Club

July 30, 2012, 04:03 PM	#4
cslinger Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,045	For around $200 bucks you could get an ULTRA Dot which is a pretty darn good dot optic. Much better then the Airsoft knockoff stuff. __________________ "Is there anyway I can write my local gun store off on my taxes as dependents?"

July 30, 2012, 04:15 PM	#5
Creeper Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2008 Location: Woooooshington Posts: 1,797	Plus 1 with cslinger... 2 bills will get you a pretty darn good holo. Cheers, C __________________ Shoulder Drive Nicholson Club

July 30, 2012, 04:28 PM	#9
Creeper Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2008 Location: Woooooshington Posts: 1,797	Sorry... I was thinking more along the lines of a Burris Fastfire Holo. For an AR, I like a little holo because you have the option of mounting it in a 45 degree offset and run a actual magnifying rifle scope on top in a QD. Cheers, __________________ Shoulder Drive Nicholson Club

July 30, 2012, 03:59 PM	#3
G.I.DAVE Member Join Date: July 21, 2012 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 26	I understand. I had done some searching and there seem to be some positive reviews from guys that just wanted some glass, that looked nice, and worked decent, for plinking. Sometimes I dont trust reviews from the same page as the seller.. There are a few im looking at, one is a KO ACOG and its right under $200. I would LOVE to own a real one. I got to play with several REAL trijicon scopes at a 2A day shoot, and i fell in love. I know there are some "budget" aimpoints too. I might look that way

July 30, 2012, 04:21 PM	#6
G.I.DAVE Member Join Date: July 21, 2012 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 26	http://www.ultradotusa.com/ These? Any models you have or used that work real well?

July 30, 2012, 04:23 PM	#7
G.I.DAVE Member Join Date: July 21, 2012 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 26	http://www.ultradotusa.com/ultradotdist2010_009.htm WOW. That Ultradot 6 is pretty sweet. The KO Acogs I have been looking at are all around $200...When you guys said airsoft, That killed it for me.

July 30, 2012, 04:25 PM	#8
G.I.DAVE Member Join Date: July 21, 2012 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 26	http://www.ultradotusa.com/ultradotdist2010_007.htm OK...now THAT is cool. and a lifetime warranty? I think im starting to like this idea. Have you used Ultradots before? Any good? THANKS GUYS!

July 30, 2012, 04:39 PM	#10
G.I.DAVE Member Join Date: July 21, 2012 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 26	That Burris is SWEET. I really like the sleek look. In my price range too. Im an "entry" AR guy. I have got to shoot alot of them, and played with alot of the new scopes, but I kinda new to all the new high tech stuff. My buddy had an AR, with a Trijicon, and a holo sight. If he flipped a switch, the scope swiveled off to the side so the Holo was only there. It was real neat. Im gunna have to try and get a hold of him to find out what kind of set up that was. The AR I have is a long model. Full length barrel, solid stock. Thats what I wanted. I will be plinking things outside, no hardcore target shooting, No greater than 200 yards, mostly in the 75-125 yard range. Thats why I was thinking more of one of the light maginification ACOG type scopes. Unless im way off, point me to a low cost scope that would work for me, I would prefer a "dot" type. That worked VERY well for me. His Trijicon was top notch...I was blown away with the quality and clarity of that piece.

July 31, 2012, 02:29 AM	#11
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	Best I can recommend is the Bushnell holo and red dots. Pretty good quality, pretty good price. Can you find cheaper? Sure, but do you want one? http://www.bushnell.com/products/sco...reddot/730005/ http://www.bushnell.com/products/sco...eddot/730232P/ __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

July 31, 2012, 03:20 AM	#12
impalacustom Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2009 Posts: 492	Buy once, cry once. Words to live buy when buying quality.

August 1, 2012, 05:06 AM	#14
Lloyd Smale Junior member Join Date: February 11, 2005 Posts: 822	another vote for the strike fire. Ive got two and other then less battery life they seem to be every bit as good as my aimpoints.

August 3, 2012, 06:07 AM	#15
CommonSense Member Join Date: August 1, 2012 Posts: 33	Hey, being that Ive carried both on missions in Afghanistan and put hundeds of rounds down range with both, I understand your fondness of the two. I prefer the ACOG over the Holographic sight personally, however. Both are versatile durable optics (if you will). For an alternative, I would NOT reccomend a "knock off". The clones are weak and do not have precise static lines for measuring and adjusting your outgoing. I would strongly reccomend you look into the Leupold VX-R Patrol optics they have to offer for an alternative to the ACOG. Also, Leupold has the new Delta Point red dot sight made with a magnesium outter housing, making it very tough for rugged work. If you are in the military, you can get the 40% off military discout EASILY. With discount it becomes the most affordable quality non-knock off alternative. If your not in the military, they are still worth their full value and can be found cheaper than on their website.

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