Looking for load data

Sbowling79 · March 10, 2012, 07:27 PM

I got a good deal today on some bullets and now I can't find a load for them. They are a cast lead 141 grain. I have some titegroup powder and looking to load them for .38 and .357 Any suggestions?

Jimro · March 11, 2012, 05:14 PM

Use data for a 158gr cast bullet.

Jimro

Jim243 · March 11, 2012, 05:43 PM

Use the data for the 148 grain.

Jim

http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

Colorado Redneck · March 11, 2012, 09:18 PM

In the Single Caliber book for 38 special, there is a section on 140 gr. Speer. 140 gr. Sierra, and loads scattered throughout the various sections for 140 gr. bullets.

Sbowling79 · March 11, 2012, 10:14 PM

I ended up using 3 grains. I forgot to mention they were bevel base wad cutters. That is what was making it hard to find data on. They measured about 800 fps thru a 6 inch blackhawk and 675 thru my 1.75 inch smith.

AlaskaMike · March 12, 2012, 12:52 PM

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I forgot to mention they were bevel base wad cutters

This is critical information. Wad cutters seat much more deeply than other bullet types, so someone suggesting to you to use data for 158 grain bullets could result in dangerous pressures.

Bullet weight is not the only thing to look at--bullet style and seating depth matter too!

ScottRiqui · March 12, 2012, 01:13 PM

There are as many 148 gr bevel-base wadcutter recipes as Carter's has liver pills - any of them would have been an adequate jumping-off point for working up a 141 gr BBWC load.

Sbowling79 · March 12, 2012, 05:26 PM

I seeted them pretty deep. Somewhere around 1.2 OAL. I have three manuals but nothing had that bullet weight in it with titegroup powder. Seemed like a good load at 3 grains.

Jimro · March 12, 2012, 08:22 PM

AlaskaMike, that's a good point, sometimes we forget to mention "of the same bullet type" when using the data for the next heavier bullet. The saying "it goes without saying" should never apply in reloading, and I forgot to say it.

Jimro

March 10, 2012, 07:27 PM	#1
Sbowling79 Member Join Date: December 10, 2011 Posts: 86	Looking for load data I got a good deal today on some bullets and now I can't find a load for them. They are a cast lead 141 grain. I have some titegroup powder and looking to load them for .38 and .357 Any suggestions?

March 11, 2012, 05:14 PM	#2
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 7,097	Use data for a 158gr cast bullet. Jimro __________________ Machine guns are awesome until you have to carry one.

March 11, 2012, 05:43 PM	#3
Jim243 Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2009 Location: Just off Route 66 Posts: 5,067	Use the data for the 148 grain. Jim http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum

March 11, 2012, 09:18 PM	#4
Colorado Redneck Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2008 Location: Northeast Colorado Posts: 1,993	Single Caliber Data In the Single Caliber book for 38 special, there is a section on 140 gr. Speer. 140 gr. Sierra, and loads scattered throughout the various sections for 140 gr. bullets.

March 12, 2012, 08:22 PM	#9
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 7,097	AlaskaMike, that's a good point, sometimes we forget to mention "of the same bullet type" when using the data for the next heavier bullet. The saying "it goes without saying" should never apply in reloading, and I forgot to say it. Jimro __________________ Machine guns are awesome until you have to carry one.

March 11, 2012, 10:14 PM	#5
Sbowling79 Member Join Date: December 10, 2011 Posts: 86	I ended up using 3 grains. I forgot to mention they were bevel base wad cutters. That is what was making it hard to find data on. They measured about 800 fps thru a 6 inch blackhawk and 675 thru my 1.75 inch smith.

March 12, 2012, 01:13 PM	#7
ScottRiqui Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2010 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 2,905	There are as many 148 gr bevel-base wadcutter recipes as Carter's has liver pills - any of them would have been an adequate jumping-off point for working up a 141 gr BBWC load.

March 12, 2012, 05:26 PM	#8
Sbowling79 Member Join Date: December 10, 2011 Posts: 86	I seeted them pretty deep. Somewhere around 1.2 OAL. I have three manuals but nothing had that bullet weight in it with titegroup powder. Seemed like a good load at 3 grains.