I'm getting a Glock, and I'm not looking back!!!

sundance43.5 · March 25, 2001, 09:27 AM

I hear a lot of Glock bashing, everywhere I go. I also hear people, praising it as the god-send of modern firearms. I don't subscribe to the last statement, but I believe, for me, a Glock is the best semi-automatic pistol on the market. I looked at a Sig, and could see in my head, the slide rusting. I looked at an HK, and saw myself paying $200 more, for more parts, and potentially more trouble, with their reknowned awful customer service. So, I'm not talking the Glock up, it's just got everything I could want and need.

Flame On!!!

Chris

eger precision · March 25, 2001, 10:15 AM

No flame here---Glock away!

bullet44 · March 25, 2001, 10:15 AM

If your in to plastic Glock is the way to go,but
it sure don't beat a CZ75.
Sorry I think the glock is one of the ugliest pistols
made,has the robocop look.
But as I say that "thank GOD" we can still buy what
we want.

WESHOOT2 · March 25, 2001, 10:20 AM

Glock = gun.

(But don't be mislead into thinking it's perfect, 'cause it ain't; it's just a machine. A really really good one, though.)

By the way, do you actually own one?

gconan · March 25, 2001, 10:36 AM

Warning, Glock`s have a tendancy to multiply!

tlhelmer · March 25, 2001, 11:06 AM

Which Glock?

Redlg155 · March 25, 2001, 11:16 AM

Good For you!

The glock is a great tool for serious use. And as for HK..Guns are great, but I have yet to see an aftermarket magazine supplier. Kinda stinks when you are at the mercy of the dealer for parts.

Good Shooting.

Tecolote · March 25, 2001, 11:25 AM

"If your in to plastic Glock is the way to go,but
it sure don't beat a CZ75."

Leave that CZ75 and a Glock in salt water for two weeks, go back and see what they'll look like. The CZ will be a heap of rust and the "plastic" Glock will just need some CLP to make it go. I like the CZ75, but I don't believe in the "mine is better than yours" talk. Right now, there's no simpler, more corrosion resistant, and easier to master pistol than a Glock. There are some that are more accurate, SIG Sauer P226 and CZ75, and some that are a lot prettier, deep blued Browning HP, but none combine lightness and toughness like a Glock does.

So what Glock are you gonna get?

Kentucky Rifle · March 25, 2001, 12:16 PM

The people who read my posts know that I have a litte collection of favorites. If I had to get rid of all but two pistols, my Glock 27 is one of the ones I'd keep.
(Just couldn't let my Seecamp go either!) After reading the posts which said that the recoil of the .40 would tear my arm off, I was really braced for that first shot. Even a little scared. The "terrible" recoil didn't happen and the first shot I fired went into the "X" ring at 21 feet. (Recoil was nothing like a .357 magnum.) The rounds from that first magazine went into a baseball-sized group in the center of the target at the same distance. Your instincts are spot on...get the Glock in any caliber. It may not be the prettiest pistol on the block, but then that's not what you're buying it for, are you?

Kentucky Rifle

Erich · March 25, 2001, 12:34 PM

I'm thinking about getting rid of my 33, but I sure can't say there's anything wrong with your logic. They work.

ojibweindian · March 25, 2001, 01:00 PM

All this talk about Glocks being able to survive and function after "two weeks of salt water emersion" doesn't seem to be valid.

I'm sure that maybe the slide and frame could handle that test, but what about the barrel and the internal trigger mechanisms, etc?

Not that I hate Glocks; I think they're wonderful works of modern firearms technology. However, common sense should indicate that any pistol subjected to that kind of a corrosive environment for an extended period of time is going to have a problem.

sundance43.5 · March 25, 2001, 01:13 PM

I'm getting the Glock 21. I've fired them before. My dad's chief deputy has one, and when I first saw it, it was a thing of beauty. It's a marvel of engineering: simple, rugged, reliable. I will be getting a Glock 17. 9mm is a better round for me right now.

I'm glad this thread didn't degenerate. And like someone said earlier, at least we can choose our guns.

Thanks

Steve in PA · March 25, 2001, 01:28 PM

Just don't put it in the microwave

WalterGAII · March 25, 2001, 02:21 PM

Glock barrels have the same Tenifer treatment as the slide. Neither will rust.

Tecolote · March 25, 2001, 03:42 PM

are nickeled, so Glocks are very resistant to corrosion. I live in a hot, wet and humid climate, all other firearms require at least a daily coat of CLP in the rain. Not Glocks. Just a wipe down with a dry rag is all it takes.

LONESOMEDOVE · March 25, 2001, 04:05 PM

I regularly rent a Glock M19. I own an SW99 (preagreement) with more than 2000 rnds of 9mm through it, with 100% reliability. My second weapon is a Kel-tec P11 with approximately 1000 rnds through it, with about 20-40 failures to eject (I blame myself, shooter fatigue and improper grip). Out of the few weapons I have owned and rented, I shoot the Glock M19 the best. Some may ask, why don’t I just buy myself a Glock? My answer, I am torn between a M1911 and a Glock 21, and due to my limited funds I can only afford one this year. For me a Glock seems to be a very capable firearm.

ojibweindian · March 25, 2001, 04:47 PM

I didn'nt know that Glock had tennifer coated barrels and nickle plated internal mechanisms. Very impressive. My desire to purchase a Glock 19 in the foreseeable future has risen considerably.

Canine · March 25, 2001, 07:08 PM

Ok, who is going to put their pistol in salt water for two weeks?

Give me a break!

Back to the topic: Glocks are good solid pistols. Glocks are among the easiest pistols to disasemble, plus they are simple.
Having said that, in my opinion they do not stack up against a CZ 75 or 97. CZ's are excellent pistols (if not left in salt water for two weeks).

Sundance,

Congrats on getting a Glock 21. In my opinion, it is the most accurate and best shooting Glock. You picked the best Glock model!

Great choice.

vyper005 · March 25, 2001, 07:45 PM

If you get a G23 with an M3 Tac light you would be the king !!

Tamara · March 25, 2001, 08:02 PM

I love my Glocks, but I get a chuckle out of a friend's response whenever someone would launch off on the famous "torture tests" that Glocks can endure:

"So it's the perfect gun with people who have good trigger-finger discipline, but otherwise Clouseau-like gun handling skills. If you're likely to drop your pistol off cliffs, under the tires of moving trucks, into salt water or mudholes, or accidentally leave it outside in a bucket of water on a sub-zero night, but will never accidentally pull the trigger, then have we got the perfect pistol for you!"

Canine · March 25, 2001, 08:46 PM

Great quote Tamara.

Let me add that anyone dumb enough to do one the following........

1. leave their pistol in salt water for two weeks
2. drop it off a cliff
3. engulf it in sodium hydroxide (a very strong base)
4. run over it with a truck
5. leave it in a frozen lake

.........needs to rethink the way they take care of firearms. Just my 2 cents.

Tecolote · March 25, 2001, 10:27 PM

When things get tough bad things happen. I for one like to know that a pistol can handle torture tests. If it survives two weeks in salt water that means it's going to last years in a marine environment. These torture tests are useful in the sense that truck torture tests are useful. Take them with a grain salt.

Lee M. · March 26, 2001, 12:24 AM

Hmmmm. I like the caustic soda(NaOH) test that Canine devised. You forgot the flame thrower test, You never know when that gun is going to get submerged in a bucket of salt water and then thrown off the cliff, run over by the truck, submerged in the NaOH, burned by the flame thrower and still come out shooting. Hey it could happen. It happens in the movies all the time.

Does anyone remember the 1911 or the M1 Garand? These guns didn't have the super "tennifer" finish on them, but they're still around and loved my many. Granted the glock may be more resistant to the elements, but in today's times, that doesn't mean much.

No offense against the Glock, but take a CZ75 and for approx. $100 ship it off to Mak's Gun-Kote and then you'll have a weather resistant CZ75. Now that's a gun.

No flames intended being a Glock owner myself.

Canine · March 26, 2001, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Hmmmm. I like the caustic soda(NaOH) test that Canine devised. You forgot the flame thrower test, You never know when that gun is going to get submerged in a bucket of salt water and then thrown off the cliff, run over by the truck, submerged in the NaOH, burned by the flame thrower and still come out shooting. Hey it could happen. It happens in the movies all the time.

LMAO. Now that would make a great test!

I agree about Glocks. I like them (I have three), but I don't love them.

Glock_Racer · March 26, 2001, 04:37 AM

OMG! I've created monsters!!!

[Edited by Glock_Racer on 03-26-2001 at 10:44 PM]

March 25, 2001, 09:27 AM	#1
sundance43.5 Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2001 Posts: 327	I hear a lot of Glock bashing, everywhere I go. I also hear people, praising it as the god-send of modern firearms. I don't subscribe to the last statement, but I believe, for me, a Glock is the best semi-automatic pistol on the market. I looked at a Sig, and could see in my head, the slide rusting. I looked at an HK, and saw myself paying $200 more, for more parts, and potentially more trouble, with their reknowned awful customer service. So, I'm not talking the Glock up, it's just got everything I could want and need. Flame On!!! Chris __________________ "When in doubt, cut it out." - Roger Peterson, local doctor "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759

March 25, 2001, 10:20 AM	#4
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	No flame here; hope it's perfect! Glock = gun. (But don't be mislead into thinking it's perfect, 'cause it ain't; it's just a machine. A really really good one, though.) By the way, do you actually own one? __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

March 25, 2001, 11:25 AM	#8
Tecolote Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 1999 Posts: 1,999	Oh brother "If your in to plastic Glock is the way to go,but it sure don't beat a CZ75." Leave that CZ75 and a Glock in salt water for two weeks, go back and see what they'll look like. The CZ will be a heap of rust and the "plastic" Glock will just need some CLP to make it go. I like the CZ75, but I don't believe in the "mine is better than yours" talk. Right now, there's no simpler, more corrosion resistant, and easier to master pistol than a Glock. There are some that are more accurate, SIG Sauer P226 and CZ75, and some that are a lot prettier, deep blued Browning HP, but none combine lightness and toughness like a Glock does. So what Glock are you gonna get? __________________ “I've been beat up, I've been thrown out, but I'm not down.” The Clash

March 25, 2001, 12:16 PM	#9
Kentucky Rifle Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 1999 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 2,687	Sundance The people who read my posts know that I have a litte collection of favorites. If I had to get rid of all but two pistols, my Glock 27 is one of the ones I'd keep. (Just couldn't let my Seecamp go either!) After reading the posts which said that the recoil of the .40 would tear my arm off, I was really braced for that first shot. Even a little scared. The "terrible" recoil didn't happen and the first shot I fired went into the "X" ring at 21 feet. (Recoil was nothing like a .357 magnum.) The rounds from that first magazine went into a baseball-sized group in the center of the target at the same distance. Your instincts are spot on...get the Glock in any caliber. It may not be the prettiest pistol on the block, but then that's not what you're buying it for, are you? Kentucky Rifle

March 25, 2001, 01:13 PM	#12
sundance43.5 Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2001 Posts: 327	I'm getting the Glock 21. I've fired them before. My dad's chief deputy has one, and when I first saw it, it was a thing of beauty. It's a marvel of engineering: simple, rugged, reliable. I will be getting a Glock 17. 9mm is a better round for me right now. I'm glad this thread didn't degenerate. And like someone said earlier, at least we can choose our guns. Thanks __________________ "When in doubt, cut it out." - Roger Peterson, local doctor "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759

March 25, 2001, 10:15 AM	#2
eger precision Member Join Date: December 3, 2000 Posts: 99	No flame here---Glock away!

March 25, 2001, 10:15 AM	#3
bullet44 Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2000 Posts: 819	If your in to plastic Glock is the way to go,but it sure don't beat a CZ75. Sorry I think the glock is one of the ugliest pistols made,has the robocop look. But as I say that "thank GOD" we can still buy what we want.

March 25, 2001, 10:36 AM	#5
gconan Member Join Date: January 14, 2001 Posts: 71	Warning, Glock`s have a tendancy to multiply!

March 25, 2001, 11:06 AM	#6
tlhelmer Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2000 Location: Indiana Posts: 628	Which Glock?

March 25, 2001, 11:16 AM	#7
Redlg155 Senior Member Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: NW Florida Posts: 2,307	Good For you! The glock is a great tool for serious use. And as for HK..Guns are great, but I have yet to see an aftermarket magazine supplier. Kinda stinks when you are at the mercy of the dealer for parts. Good Shooting.

March 25, 2001, 12:34 PM	#10
Erich Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 1999 Location: Albuquerque, NM, USA Posts: 2,543	I'm thinking about getting rid of my 33, but I sure can't say there's anything wrong with your logic. They work.

March 25, 2001, 01:00 PM	#11
ojibweindian Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2000 Location: Huntsville, Alabama Posts: 1,198	All this talk about Glocks being able to survive and function after "two weeks of salt water emersion" doesn't seem to be valid. I'm sure that maybe the slide and frame could handle that test, but what about the barrel and the internal trigger mechanisms, etc? Not that I hate Glocks; I think they're wonderful works of modern firearms technology. However, common sense should indicate that any pistol subjected to that kind of a corrosive environment for an extended period of time is going to have a problem.

March 25, 2001, 01:28 PM	#13
Steve in PA Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 1999 Location: Northeastern PA Posts: 756	Just don't put it in the microwave

March 25, 2001, 02:21 PM	#14
WalterGAII Junior member Join Date: November 7, 1999 Posts: 1,516	Glock barrels have the same Tenifer treatment as the slide. Neither will rust.

March 25, 2001, 03:42 PM	#15
Tecolote Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 1999 Posts: 1,999	And the internals are nickeled, so Glocks are very resistant to corrosion. I live in a hot, wet and humid climate, all other firearms require at least a daily coat of CLP in the rain. Not Glocks. Just a wipe down with a dry rag is all it takes. __________________ “I've been beat up, I've been thrown out, but I'm not down.” The Clash

March 25, 2001, 04:05 PM	#16
LONESOMEDOVE Member Join Date: July 1, 2000 Location: NY Posts: 27	I regularly rent a Glock M19. I own an SW99 (preagreement) with more than 2000 rnds of 9mm through it, with 100% reliability. My second weapon is a Kel-tec P11 with approximately 1000 rnds through it, with about 20-40 failures to eject (I blame myself, shooter fatigue and improper grip). Out of the few weapons I have owned and rented, I shoot the Glock M19 the best. Some may ask, why don’t I just buy myself a Glock? My answer, I am torn between a M1911 and a Glock 21, and due to my limited funds I can only afford one this year. For me a Glock seems to be a very capable firearm.

March 25, 2001, 04:47 PM	#17
ojibweindian Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2000 Location: Huntsville, Alabama Posts: 1,198	I didn'nt know that Glock had tennifer coated barrels and nickle plated internal mechanisms. Very impressive. My desire to purchase a Glock 19 in the foreseeable future has risen considerably.

March 25, 2001, 07:08 PM	#18
Canine Member Join Date: February 20, 2001 Posts: 89	Ok, who is going to put their pistol in salt water for two weeks? Give me a break! Back to the topic: Glocks are good solid pistols. Glocks are among the easiest pistols to disasemble, plus they are simple. Having said that, in my opinion they do not stack up against a CZ 75 or 97. CZ's are excellent pistols (if not left in salt water for two weeks). Sundance, Congrats on getting a Glock 21. In my opinion, it is the most accurate and best shooting Glock. You picked the best Glock model! Great choice.

March 25, 2001, 07:45 PM	#19
vyper005 Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2000 Location: Delaware Posts: 350	Congrats Big Daddy...:) If you get a G23 with an M3 Tac light you would be the king !!

March 25, 2001, 08:02 PM	#20
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	I love my Glocks, but I get a chuckle out of a friend's response whenever someone would launch off on the famous "torture tests" that Glocks can endure: "So it's the perfect gun with people who have good trigger-finger discipline, but otherwise Clouseau-like gun handling skills. If you're likely to drop your pistol off cliffs, under the tires of moving trucks, into salt water or mudholes, or accidentally leave it outside in a bucket of water on a sub-zero night, but will never accidentally pull the trigger, then have we got the perfect pistol for you!" __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

March 25, 2001, 08:46 PM	#21
Canine Member Join Date: February 20, 2001 Posts: 89	Pistol abuse Great quote Tamara. Let me add that anyone dumb enough to do one the following........ 1. leave their pistol in salt water for two weeks 2. drop it off a cliff 3. engulf it in sodium hydroxide (a very strong base) 4. run over it with a truck 5. leave it in a frozen lake .........needs to rethink the way they take care of firearms. Just my 2 cents.

March 25, 2001, 10:27 PM	#22
Tecolote Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 1999 Posts: 1,999	Dumb enough? When things get tough bad things happen. I for one like to know that a pistol can handle torture tests. If it survives two weeks in salt water that means it's going to last years in a marine environment. These torture tests are useful in the sense that truck torture tests are useful. Take them with a grain salt. __________________ “I've been beat up, I've been thrown out, but I'm not down.” The Clash

March 26, 2001, 12:24 AM	#23
Lee M. Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 2001 Location: Bluegrass State Posts: 101	Hmmmm. I like the caustic soda(NaOH) test that Canine devised. You forgot the flame thrower test, You never know when that gun is going to get submerged in a bucket of salt water and then thrown off the cliff, run over by the truck, submerged in the NaOH, burned by the flame thrower and still come out shooting. Hey it could happen. It happens in the movies all the time. Does anyone remember the 1911 or the M1 Garand? These guns didn't have the super "tennifer" finish on them, but they're still around and loved my many. Granted the glock may be more resistant to the elements, but in today's times, that doesn't mean much. No offense against the Glock, but take a CZ75 and for approx. $100 ship it off to Mak's Gun-Kote and then you'll have a weather resistant CZ75. Now that's a gun. No flames intended being a Glock owner myself.

March 26, 2001, 04:37 AM	#25
Glock_Racer Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 2000 Location: PRK Posts: 299	OMG! I've created monsters!!! [Edited by Glock_Racer on 03-26-2001 at 10:44 PM]