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August 9, 2011, 11:10 AM | #1 | |
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C-Span covers forum on college campus conceled carry
Yesterday, C-Span posted to their archive the discussion that SAF and SCCC had on student concealed carry on campus. The video is at the link and runs three hours and thirty-two minutes.
The "Related Resources" list has some interesting things also for those so interested. VIDEO LINK Quote:
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Gun Control: The premise that a woman found in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is morally superior to allowing that same woman to defend her life with a firearm. "Science is built up with facts, as a house is with stones. But a collection of facts is no more a science than a heap of stones is a house." - Jules Henri Poincare "Three thousand people died on Sept. 11 because eight pilots were killed" -- former Northwest Airlines pilot Stephen Luckey |
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August 9, 2011, 11:15 AM | #2 |
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Just remembering my college days and all the very stupid things that my fellow college students did (not me of course).
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August 9, 2011, 12:04 PM | #3 | |
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One of the opponents suggested that drunken college students would be shooting the dickens out of each other. A supporter countered that even though most of the students ought not to be drinking since they're under 21, for that same reason, most of them would not be legally carrying concealed weapons. If I recall correctly, the bill passed the House but was tabled in the Senate. There is a similar situation playing out in the court with a University of Idaho student who is fighting the ban on any firearms in married student housing on campus. I believe that it's covered in its own thread in this forum.
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August 9, 2011, 05:06 PM | #4 | |
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That argument is tired. Stupidity does not discriminate based on age. There is no data to support it. There is data to support the opposite, though. There are, if I'm remembering this correctly, 70 campuses that allow students to carry on them. They have never had an incident. Not even one of a "stupid drunk frat boy". Now many colleges that ban carrying on campus have had incidents with drunk stupid frat boys and guns, but those colleges ban guns so they don't have incidents of drunk stupid frat boys and guns (an astute reader should see that that previous sentence is a little funny).
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August 9, 2011, 05:19 PM | #5 |
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A circular argument. Read from the beginning and repeat to infinity.
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Gun Control: The premise that a woman found in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is morally superior to allowing that same woman to defend her life with a firearm. "Science is built up with facts, as a house is with stones. But a collection of facts is no more a science than a heap of stones is a house." - Jules Henri Poincare "Three thousand people died on Sept. 11 because eight pilots were killed" -- former Northwest Airlines pilot Stephen Luckey |
August 9, 2011, 05:24 PM | #6 |
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John Lott gave the politically correct rebuttal to this man. That is why firearms proponents are in such disarray. No one wants to tell the antis the truth lest they hurt their feelings.
My rebuttal to this man. Sir, in your opening statement you said that you were glad that no one in this room is allowed to carry a concealed weapon. What you fail to realize, in your zeal, is if there is a person in this room who is carrying a concealed firearm, that person is a criminal who may decide to commit a heinous crime in our presence here today. In that event, there would be no more assistance in stopping him today than you had on the day you were injured; and you celebrate that fact. You exist very comfortably in this no firearms zone just as you did on that horrible day. You have learned nothing from your experience.
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Gun Control: The premise that a woman found in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is morally superior to allowing that same woman to defend her life with a firearm. "Science is built up with facts, as a house is with stones. But a collection of facts is no more a science than a heap of stones is a house." - Jules Henri Poincare "Three thousand people died on Sept. 11 because eight pilots were killed" -- former Northwest Airlines pilot Stephen Luckey |
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