Ithaca Auto Burglar back in production

MatthewVanitas · July 17, 2001, 11:17 AM

I have long covetted one of these: a production short-barreled double shotgun. I always wondered why no class-3 dealer was making them... but then I found this:

http://www.dennysguns.com/denny/burglar.html

I'm not claiming it's practical, just very, very cool.

Standard disclaimer: I'm not making any money by mentioning this project, I just thought some folks would like to know. I especially like the fact that they offer either a tritium or genuine ivory bead.

Romulus · July 17, 2001, 11:23 AM

Nice looker, but can this be legal? It looks like a sawed off shotgun with fewer than the legal-minimum 18 inches of length...

Dave McC · July 17, 2001, 01:12 PM

One note, the original Auto Burglar had a more vertical handle. Control of this would be difficult. Does look like a neat toy.

And the model is certainly well prepared,a double
barreled 20 ga and a pair of 38s!!

BigG · July 17, 2001, 02:45 PM

You mean there was a gun in the picture, too?

Seriously, the original had a saw handle and came in 20 gauge also. Pretty cool

Hugajudge · September 22, 2009, 10:15 PM

I own one of these. I bought it from Denny in 2000 +/-

It is a GREAT gun.

I shoot sporting clays, trap and skeet with it.
I especially enjoy shooting sporting clays with it. I usually hit about 10 out of 50. But considering this is a 9 inch unimproved barrel ... I'm not ashamed of those results.

Rattlehead · September 22, 2009, 10:34 PM

Holy necropost, Batman!

AA080 · September 22, 2009, 11:34 PM

8 years out of left field!!!

armoredman · September 22, 2009, 11:45 PM

Now link shows placeholder page, lost domain name?
Duh, didn't look at the date - holy resurrected thread, Batman!

zxcvbob · January 25, 2011, 03:42 PM

I found the following posted at rec.guns, regarding Taurus's new 28 gauge revolver:

Quote:

Been reading more on this at the NFAOA forum and the BATFE site.
Seems the Raging Judge 28 ga may be deemed "not illegal" because its
interesting collection of negative attributes:

It's not an AOW because is has a rifled bore.

It's not a DD because it uses shotshells for which a sporting use
exemption is granted.

It's not an SBS because it has no buttstock.

It's not an NFA "weapon made from a shotgun" because it was
manufactured as a pistol with a rifled bore.

It's not even a shotgun as defined under the GCA because "A firearm
with a pistol grip in lieu of the shoulder stock is
not designed to be fired from the shoulder and, therefore, is not a
shotgun." http://www.atf.gov/publications/news...er-2009-11.pdf

So does this mean someone could reproduce the 20 ga. Auto Burglar without a tax stamp if they just rifled the barrels? Say, a 1:38" twist (same as some .44 Magnums) so it won't spin a shot load into a donut?

hogdogs · January 25, 2011, 04:16 PM

Nope... bore is limited to 1/2 inch .50 or less and 20 is larger than half inch.

Brnet

zxcvbob · January 25, 2011, 04:20 PM

So is 28 gauge.

hogdogs · January 25, 2011, 04:55 PM

There won't be one of these anytime soon...

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437216

Brent

July 17, 2001, 11:17 AM	#1
MatthewVanitas Senior Member Join Date: August 24, 2000 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 258	Ithaca Auto Burglar back in production I have long covetted one of these: a production short-barreled double shotgun. I always wondered why no class-3 dealer was making them... but then I found this: http://www.dennysguns.com/denny/burglar.html I'm not claiming it's practical, just very, very cool. Standard disclaimer: I'm not making any money by mentioning this project, I just thought some folks would like to know. I especially like the fact that they offer either a tritium or genuine ivory bead. __________________ --Capitalism isn't a program or a system like "socialism," but a description of reality like "the Pythagorean theorem." Deal with it.

July 17, 2001, 02:45 PM	#4
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September 22, 2009, 10:15 PM	#5
Hugajudge Junior Member Join Date: September 22, 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 1	Denny's Auto Burglar shotguns I own one of these. I bought it from Denny in 2000 +/- It is a GREAT gun. I shoot sporting clays, trap and skeet with it. I especially enjoy shooting sporting clays with it. I usually hit about 10 out of 50. But considering this is a 9 inch unimproved barrel ... I'm not ashamed of those results.

September 22, 2009, 11:45 PM	#8
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,299	Now link shows placeholder page, lost domain name? Duh, didn't look at the date - holy resurrected thread, Batman! Last edited by armoredman; September 23, 2009 at 06:03 PM.

January 25, 2011, 04:20 PM	#11
zxcvbob Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2007 Location: S.E. Minnesota Posts: 4,720	So is 28 gauge. __________________ "Everything they do is so dramatic and flamboyant. It just makes me want to set myself on fire!" —Lucille Bluth

July 17, 2001, 11:23 AM	#2
Romulus Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2001 Location: Kettle Moraine country Posts: 897	Nice looker, but can this be legal? It looks like a sawed off shotgun with fewer than the legal-minimum 18 inches of length...

July 17, 2001, 01:12 PM	#3
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	One note, the original Auto Burglar had a more vertical handle. Control of this would be difficult. Does look like a neat toy. And the model is certainly well prepared,a double barreled 20 ga and a pair of 38s!!

September 22, 2009, 10:34 PM	#6
Rattlehead Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2009 Location: NC Posts: 244	Holy necropost, Batman!

September 22, 2009, 11:34 PM	#7
AA080 Member Join Date: September 21, 2008 Posts: 25	8 years out of left field!!!

January 25, 2011, 04:16 PM	#10
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Nope... bore is limited to 1/2 inch .50 or less and 20 is larger than half inch. Brnet

January 25, 2011, 04:55 PM	#12
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	There won't be one of these anytime soon... http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437216 Brent