Ruger American .243 at 650 yards... - Page 3

reynolds357 · March 31, 2013, 08:52 PM

I clean much less with Moly coated bullets. Use brake cleaner on the first few patches and its gone. Then there is a lot less copper to deal with than non moly bullets.

Dan Newberry · April 1, 2013, 11:17 AM

We had a guy at our long range practice shoot with his RAR in .243 win, using 95 grain Bergers and IMR 4350... and he was shooting great with it. We got him on the steel all the way out to 1030 yards, and it was consistent, reliable... very accurate.

He had a Redfield Revolution scope in 4-12 power, and it had enough dial up to make 1030 yards (ended up being around 35 MOA).

The Fusion bullets were supposed to be available in boxes of 50... I'm on Natchez Shooter Supply's waiting list... but I ain't holding my breath...

Dan

03Shadowbob · April 4, 2013, 06:36 PM

I got to put just 3 rounds through my 30-06 this weekend that were all touching each other at 70 yards. Not impressive distance but I felt good about it. Felt recoil to me was just tad more than 243 and the trigger was amazing. Probably the best $350 I have ever spent on a rifle. Fit me very well, light and accurate. Great impressions so far.

jimmythegeek · May 25, 2013, 05:11 AM

for me going way over budget this week. I'm picking up a lightly used RAM in .243 tomorrow because of this thread. And today I found some Federal Fusion to feed it.

Naturally, I had to get a scope. Cabelas has the Zeiss Conqueror 3-9x40 on sale, and I had a couple of gift cards.

I got a good deal on the rifle and the scope, but I can't afford to save this much money!

Cary · May 25, 2013, 09:15 AM

Jimmy,
Enjoy your gun and let us know how it performs. I have an older Ruger M77 MarkII in .243 I shoot and load for.
Cary

ndking1126 · May 25, 2013, 09:28 PM

I never responded, but I bought some 130 grain fusion for my 270 as I mentioned, and it did shoot really well! I don't expect other rounds will do much, if any better in my 270 so I'll shoot this until I start hand loading for it. I'm not shooting much right now because I'm trying to save a little to re-barrel a .223 to .260 Remington.

57K · May 28, 2013, 08:10 PM

jimmy, I appreciate you resurrecting the thread as well as Dan posting it. I've been thinking about a new 7mm-08 quite a bit and I am considering the American. After seeing Dan's post about bringing the trigger down to 2 pounds, it's gonna be hard not to get one. I've always liked the Savage M11 as well and the Accu-Trigger is supposed to go down to 1 1/2 pounds if I remember correctly.

Economy rifles outshooting more expensive offerings from the same manufacturer isn't new. From what I heard about the Rem. 788, it was discontinued partially for that reason. I had one in .22-250 with a 24" barrel that was a tackdriver. It will be interesting to see what Ruger does if the same holds true for the American. When I first saw it my thoughts went to the Rem. 770 (?) that probably won't be around much longer since they have a new rifle that like the American seems to have borrowed from the Savage M10/110.

steveNChunter · May 28, 2013, 09:25 PM

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they have a new rifle that like the American seems to have borrowed from the Savage M10/110.

If you're referring to the Remington 783, its actually more or less a revamped Marlin X7, which does use the Savage-esque barrel nut system, and a trigger much like the accutrigger. So it does have Savage influence, albeit indirectly.

The 783 could be referred to as a Marlington or Remlin, which ever you prefer.

57K · May 29, 2013, 07:14 PM

Quote:

The 783 could be referred to as a Marlington or Remlin, which ever you prefer.

LOL! I think either one will work.

Kachok · May 30, 2013, 09:00 PM

Everyone talk about how well Fussion ammo works for them, I have had bad luck with the stuff, shoots poorly in my 30-06 and my 7mm-08 (which does not like any factory ammo) does not bother me too much though because I handload the Speer Deep Curl (almost the same bullet) and I get great accuracy out of the handloads.

fc286 · June 3, 2013, 07:53 PM

I had same results with the RAR in 22-250 new out of the box, dialed scope in and shot a 3 shot group a quarter would cover! WOW what a piece for the money! That was at 100 yards. What Ruger did is amazing.

jimmythegeek · June 4, 2014, 12:05 AM

I had to send my scope in so that delayed my response and I forgot about the thread.

This is a typical group.
http://i.imgur.com/FqYgIK6.jpg

Here's another:
http://i.imgur.com/VfCPpQJ.jpg Not sure what happened at 1:00 and 4:00, but the problem is probably me. I might have held the rifle in my shoulder pocket a little differently so it pivoted just a teeny bit under recoil, or I yanked the trigger. Still under an inch at 100 yards.

I have been saving my brass to reload, but honestly I don't think I'll bother for a while when I can find Fed Fusion for around a buck a round and projectiles alone are $.30+ What'd be the point? Developing an accuracy load that's almost as good? Lot of time and effort for little benefit.

Ruger American .243 + Fed Fusion makes me giddy.

Brian Pfleuger · June 4, 2014, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmythegeek

I have been saving my brass to reload, but honestly I don't think I'll bother for a while when I can find Fed Fusion for around a buck a round and projectiles alone are $.30+ What'd be the point? Developing an accuracy load that's almost as good? Lot of time and effort for little benefit.

Ruger American .243 + Fed Fusion makes me giddy.

Well, ammo that costs 1/2 as much would be a pretty good point.

Less really. 30 cents a bullet is closer to the most expensive than the cheapest. Even Sierra MKs are only 23 cents each. You're looking at 23 for the bullet, 20 for the powder and 3-5 for the primer and 3-5 for brass. 53 cents a shot, give or take.

Save the other 47 cents a shot for a new barrel.

Unlicensed Dremel · June 4, 2014, 09:01 AM

Holy jumpin crawdaddies, that's an impressive budget rifle!

rfd · June 12, 2014, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Economy rifles outshooting more expensive offerings from the same manufacturer isn't new. From what I heard about the Rem. 788, it was discontinued partially for that reason. I had one in .22-250 with a 24" barrel that was a tackdriver.

loved my old 788 in .222rem, what a tack driver, unique design 9 rear locking lugs on the bolt. i sold it to buy a 700vs in .222rem and for all that money and fuss, the 788 shot every bit as good as the 700vs, but without all the added weight. now i have an rar in .243rem ... really really nice ... just waiting patiently for boyd or stocky or *someone* to offer a better chassis.

Unlicensed Dremel · June 13, 2014, 05:38 PM

If only the 6.5 creedmoor Ruger American came in a compact version; and if only it was .260 not 6.5 C.

April 1, 2013, 11:17 AM	#52
Dan Newberry Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2012 Location: Wytheville, VA Posts: 216	We had a guy at our long range practice shoot with his RAR in .243 win, using 95 grain Bergers and IMR 4350... and he was shooting great with it. We got him on the steel all the way out to 1030 yards, and it was consistent, reliable... very accurate. He had a Redfield Revolution scope in 4-12 power, and it had enough dial up to make 1030 yards (ended up being around 35 MOA). The Fusion bullets were supposed to be available in boxes of 50... I'm on Natchez Shooter Supply's waiting list... but I ain't holding my breath... Dan __________________ *www.BANGSTEEL.com* Practical Long Range Rifle Courses... Optimal Charge Weight handload consulting

May 25, 2013, 05:11 AM	#54
jimmythegeek Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2011 Location: Seattle Posts: 216	sorry to resurrect an old thread, but it's to blame for me going way over budget this week. I'm picking up a lightly used RAM in .243 tomorrow because of this thread. And today I found some Federal Fusion to feed it. Naturally, I had to get a scope. Cabelas has the Zeiss Conqueror 3-9x40 on sale, and I had a couple of gift cards. I got a good deal on the rifle and the scope, but I can't afford to save this much money! __________________ "Jeez, man, what's another word for 'stupid?'" "Tactical." -Tom Servo Marlin 795, 795ss, 39A Mountie, CZ-455 American, CZ-452 Scout, CZ-75 Kadet, AOM160 M1 Carbine, USGI M1 Carbine, M1 Garand, Dan Wesson PM7 1911

May 25, 2013, 09:15 AM	#55
Cary Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2010 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 131	Jimmy, Enjoy your gun and let us know how it performs. I have an older Ruger M77 MarkII in .243 I shoot and load for. Cary __________________ Shooters. We are a community. United we stand divided we fall.

June 3, 2013, 07:53 PM	#61
fc286 Member Join Date: March 13, 2010 Posts: 25	Ruger American I had same results with the RAR in 22-250 new out of the box, dialed scope in and shot a 3 shot group a quarter would cover! WOW what a piece for the money! That was at 100 yards. What Ruger did is amazing.

June 4, 2014, 12:05 AM	#62
jimmythegeek Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2011 Location: Seattle Posts: 216	real resurrection job for this thread - someone asked for a report I had to send my scope in so that delayed my response and I forgot about the thread. This is a typical group. http://i.imgur.com/FqYgIK6.jpg Here's another: http://i.imgur.com/VfCPpQJ.jpg Not sure what happened at 1:00 and 4:00, but the problem is probably me. I might have held the rifle in my shoulder pocket a little differently so it pivoted just a teeny bit under recoil, or I yanked the trigger. Still under an inch at 100 yards. I have been saving my brass to reload, but honestly I don't think I'll bother for a while when I can find Fed Fusion for around a buck a round and projectiles alone are $.30+ What'd be the point? Developing an accuracy load that's almost as good? Lot of time and effort for little benefit. Ruger American .243 + Fed Fusion makes me giddy. __________________ "Jeez, man, what's another word for 'stupid?'" "Tactical." -Tom Servo Marlin 795, 795ss, 39A Mountie, CZ-455 American, CZ-452 Scout, CZ-75 Kadet, AOM160 M1 Carbine, USGI M1 Carbine, M1 Garand, Dan Wesson PM7 1911

March 31, 2013, 08:52 PM	#51
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	I clean much less with Moly coated bullets. Use brake cleaner on the first few patches and its gone. Then there is a lot less copper to deal with than non moly bullets.

April 4, 2013, 06:36 PM	#53
03Shadowbob Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2006 Location: South Florida Posts: 176	I got to put just 3 rounds through my 30-06 this weekend that were all touching each other at 70 yards. Not impressive distance but I felt good about it. Felt recoil to me was just tad more than 243 and the trigger was amazing. Probably the best $350 I have ever spent on a rifle. Fit me very well, light and accurate. Great impressions so far.

May 25, 2013, 09:28 PM	#56
ndking1126 Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2008 Location: Madison, AL Posts: 1,932	I never responded, but I bought some 130 grain fusion for my 270 as I mentioned, and it did shoot really well! I don't expect other rounds will do much, if any better in my 270 so I'll shoot this until I start hand loading for it. I'm not shooting much right now because I'm trying to save a little to re-barrel a .223 to .260 Remington.

May 28, 2013, 08:10 PM	#57
57K Junior member Join Date: March 2, 2013 Location: Heart of Texas Posts: 788	jimmy, I appreciate you resurrecting the thread as well as Dan posting it. I've been thinking about a new 7mm-08 quite a bit and I am considering the American. After seeing Dan's post about bringing the trigger down to 2 pounds, it's gonna be hard not to get one. I've always liked the Savage M11 as well and the Accu-Trigger is supposed to go down to 1 1/2 pounds if I remember correctly. Economy rifles outshooting more expensive offerings from the same manufacturer isn't new. From what I heard about the Rem. 788, it was discontinued partially for that reason. I had one in .22-250 with a 24" barrel that was a tackdriver. It will be interesting to see what Ruger does if the same holds true for the American. When I first saw it my thoughts went to the Rem. 770 (?) that probably won't be around much longer since they have a new rifle that like the American seems to have borrowed from the Savage M10/110.

May 30, 2013, 09:00 PM	#60
Kachok Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2012 Posts: 304	Everyone talk about how well Fussion ammo works for them, I have had bad luck with the stuff, shoots poorly in my 30-06 and my 7mm-08 (which does not like any factory ammo) does not bother me too much though because I handload the Speer Deep Curl (almost the same bullet) and I get great accuracy out of the handloads.

June 4, 2014, 09:01 AM	#64
Unlicensed Dremel Junior member Join Date: February 13, 2014 Location: Flathead Valley, MT Posts: 2,187	Holy jumpin crawdaddies, that's an impressive budget rifle!

June 13, 2014, 05:38 PM	#66
Unlicensed Dremel Junior member Join Date: February 13, 2014 Location: Flathead Valley, MT Posts: 2,187	If only the 6.5 creedmoor Ruger American came in a compact version; and if only it was .260 not 6.5 C.