Legal forum?

ArmySon · October 4, 2000, 09:57 AM

Anybody notice that there's no threads at all in the legal forum? Is it just me?

Dennis · October 4, 2000, 10:03 AM

Hmm. I just came from there and there were bunches and bunches. (?)

Load times are long today. Could that be the problem?

TheBluesMan · October 4, 2000, 10:08 AM

Been there on and off all morning. Must be you...

DorGunR · October 4, 2000, 10:14 AM

Everything on TFL is sloooooow today and I can't get into Legal. What's up troops?

dZ · October 4, 2000, 10:20 AM

we are under attack

there is a thread with a bogus date that makes any view other than show all posts not work

here is the thread called no: [Link to invalid post9.html

some one get ahold of a moderator

Gunslinger · October 4, 2000, 10:22 AM

I'm getting in with no trouble but like Son am seeing no threads at all. It is though they have all vanished.

Wait a second....I think I see Rod Sterling up there. Yep, it's him. Hold on and I'll go ask 'im......

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Gunslinger

I was promised a Shortycicle and I want a Shortycicle!

OF · October 4, 2000, 11:14 AM

Ditto here: no threads in Legal. Other forums seem fine.

Barbarians at the Gate!! To Arms!!

TheBluesMan · October 4, 2000, 11:37 AM

Hmmm... Now I can't get there either...

We're on it! Thanks for the tip.

**Rich Lucibella** · October 4, 2000, 11:38 AM

Thanks. I'm on it.
Staff, please take no action. It's a broken thread that I need to check out.
Rich

ArmySon · October 4, 2000, 11:52 AM

This is the latest message I received when trying to access legal:

You are attempting to access a private forum. Please identify yourself below. Note that this identification screen will only be required once per browser session (per private forum, if you are accessing via forum passwords), assuming you allow cookies to be stored. We will store your private forum access privileges as a cookie (thus, we highly recommend that you do not disable your cookies in your browser!).

**Rich Lucibella** · October 4, 2000, 12:19 PM

Son-
I know. With everyone knocking at the door of Legal, the server began to smell of burnin' rubber! If I shut the Forum down, I can't get in to debug. By turning it "private" the server requests are turned back.

I think I have it. Stand by.
Rich

Gunslinger · October 4, 2000, 12:24 PM

Yeah Rich, that is pretty much Rod thought to.

Dead · October 4, 2000, 01:16 PM

<---Threating to jump off the Information Super High Bridge unless Legel comes back

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Dead [Black Ops]

[This message has been edited by Dead (edited October 04, 2000).]

dZ · October 4, 2000, 01:38 PM

Hmmm

freerepublic was offline this morning too

prehaps the MMM doesnt like how we turned out the team on first Monday

dZ

Keiller TN · October 4, 2000, 02:00 PM

I can't get into the forum either. I get a notice that I'm trying to access a private forum.

Jason Demond · October 4, 2000, 04:25 PM

Now it's MIA!

Thank you Rick for getting on this.

DorGunR · October 4, 2000, 04:46 PM

Uhhhh.....Kimber Man
It's Rich not Rick, and besides, he owns this playground.

Christina Whittington · October 4, 2000, 05:03 PM

I guess this all explains why Genral doesn't have any topics right now.
When will we be back on? Anyone know?
CW

jaydee · October 4, 2000, 10:17 PM

I shot Rich an email early this AM asking about this...

Son, looks like we both caught it around the same time...

**Rich Lucibella** · October 4, 2000, 10:56 PM

Here's the update.

UBB maintains all threads in discreet files. However, there's an index for each of the Forums that it looks to when reading(?) or writing to a thread. If that get's corrupted, it can end up in a runaway loop. The server doesn't like runaway loops.

The Legal Forum has a corruted index.

Normally, we can do a reindex to clean up the files. However, every time I try to do this in Legal, the update should stop at 7,100+ threads. I've watched it count as high as 40,000 today!. Well, there ain't 40,000 threads in there. My guess: Not only are the Members getting caught in this loop, but so is the index function. Not good.

I've done a manual inspection of the files and can find no problem.....generally, we'll see a thread with a size of 0....that's a dead givaway. We're not that lucky today.

At this point, I've hacked the index script to print the actual thread it's working on as it goes. Hopefully, it'll hit a certain number and then begin spitting that same number out over and over. Bingo, the culprit! (I hope)

Well, that's more info than you all required, but at least as much as you deserve for the quick alert and your patience. One of these days, I'm gonna enroll in a Perl course. This learning on the fly is a bear. Sure am glad I didn't pick this week to give up sniffin' glue!
Rich

Gary H · October 4, 2000, 11:27 PM

Rich:

Thanks for the update. Perhaps we have been placing an excessive number of Gore quotes and the server just can't take it anymore. I know how it feels!

**Rich Lucibella** · October 5, 2000, 01:59 AM

Got it. http://www.thefiringline.com:8080/fo...threadid=29354
Rich

[This message has been edited by Rich Lucibella (edited October 05, 2000).]

C.R.Sam · October 5, 2000, 02:20 AM

I just tried to post a thank you to Rich n DZ n Lawdawg over on legal and got the below error msg.........you guys havin a long bad night and the work is appreciated...Sam

Sorry, but you are not authorized to post a reply in this particular forum. Only moderators, administrators, and users granted proper permission may post replies in this forum.

Ed Brunner · October 5, 2000, 06:08 AM

C.R. Sam; Me too. Did you get the MUSIC?

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You have to be there when it's all over. Otherwise you can't say "I told you so."

Better days to be,

Ed

TheBluesMan · October 5, 2000, 07:09 AM

You're right guys.

Rich set the Legal forum to be private so he could work on it while it was still up. Looks like it needs to be reset to be public again.

We'll have an administrator fix this ASAP and we can go back in and vent!

October 4, 2000, 09:57 AM	#1
ArmySon Staff Alumnus Join Date: April 14, 2000 Posts: 2,926	Anybody notice that there's no threads at all in the legal forum? Is it just me?

October 4, 2000, 10:03 AM	#2
Dennis Staff Emeritus Join Date: November 23, 1998 Location: a small forest in Texas Posts: 7,079	Hmm. I just came from there and there were bunches and bunches. (?) Load times are long today. Could that be the problem?

October 4, 2000, 10:08 AM	#3
TheBluesMan Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 15, 1999 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,558	Been there on and off all morning. Must be you...

October 4, 2000, 10:14 AM	#4
DorGunR Senior Member Join Date: January 13, 2000 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,125	Everything on TFL is sloooooow today and I can't get into Legal. What's up troops?

October 4, 2000, 10:20 AM	#5
dZ Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: Exiled, Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,548	we are under attack there is a thread with a bogus date that makes any view other than show all posts not work here is the thread called no: [Link to invalid post9.html some one get ahold of a moderator

October 4, 2000, 10:22 AM	#6
Gunslinger Junior member Join Date: January 5, 1999 Location: Springfield, Missouri Posts: 2,105	I'm getting in with no trouble but like Son am seeing no threads at all. It is though they have all vanished. Wait a second....I think I see Rod Sterling up there. Yep, it's him. Hold on and I'll go ask 'im...... ------------------ Gunslinger I was promised a Shortycicle and I want a Shortycicle!

October 4, 2000, 11:14 AM	#7
OF Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2000 Posts: 2,239	Ditto here: no threads in Legal. Other forums seem fine. Barbarians at the Gate!! To Arms!!

October 4, 2000, 11:37 AM	#8
TheBluesMan Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 15, 1999 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,558	Hmmm... Now I can't get there either... We're on it! Thanks for the tip.

October 4, 2000, 11:38 AM	#9
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	Thanks. I'm on it. Staff, please take no action. It's a broken thread that I need to check out. Rich

October 4, 2000, 11:52 AM	#10
ArmySon Staff Alumnus Join Date: April 14, 2000 Posts: 2,926	This is the latest message I received when trying to access legal: You are attempting to access a private forum. Please identify yourself below. Note that this identification screen will only be required once per browser session (per private forum, if you are accessing via forum passwords), assuming you allow cookies to be stored. We will store your private forum access privileges as a cookie (thus, we highly recommend that you do not disable your cookies in your browser!).

October 4, 2000, 12:19 PM	#11
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	Son- I know. With everyone knocking at the door of Legal, the server began to smell of burnin' rubber! If I shut the Forum down, I can't get in to debug. By turning it "private" the server requests are turned back. I think I have it. Stand by. Rich

October 4, 2000, 12:24 PM	#12
Gunslinger Junior member Join Date: January 5, 1999 Location: Springfield, Missouri Posts: 2,105	Yeah Rich, that is pretty much Rod thought to.

October 4, 2000, 01:16 PM	#13
Dead Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: AoW Land, USA Posts: 1,968	<---Threating to jump off the Information Super High Bridge unless Legel comes back ------------------ Dead [Black Ops] [This message has been edited by Dead (edited October 04, 2000).]

October 4, 2000, 01:38 PM	#14
dZ Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: Exiled, Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,548	Hmmm freerepublic was offline this morning too prehaps the MMM doesnt like how we turned out the team on first Monday dZ

October 4, 2000, 02:00 PM	#15
Keiller TN Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2000 Posts: 483	I can't get into the forum either. I get a notice that I'm trying to access a private forum.

October 4, 2000, 04:25 PM	#16
Jason Demond Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 1999 Location: Mivonks, Michigan Posts: 1,846	Now it's MIA! Thank you Rick for getting on this.

October 4, 2000, 04:46 PM	#17
DorGunR Senior Member Join Date: January 13, 2000 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,125	Uhhhh.....Kimber Man It's Rich not Rick, and besides, he owns this playground.

October 4, 2000, 05:03 PM	#18
Christina Whittington Member Join Date: January 23, 2000 Posts: 87	I guess this all explains why Genral doesn't have any topics right now. When will we be back on? Anyone know? CW

October 4, 2000, 10:17 PM	#19
jaydee Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2000 Posts: 154	I shot Rich an email early this AM asking about this... Son, looks like we both caught it around the same time...

October 4, 2000, 10:56 PM	#20
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	Here's the update. UBB maintains all threads in discreet files. However, there's an index for each of the Forums that it looks to when reading(?) or writing to a thread. If that get's corrupted, it can end up in a runaway loop. The server doesn't like runaway loops. The Legal Forum has a corruted index. Normally, we can do a reindex to clean up the files. However, every time I try to do this in Legal, the update should stop at 7,100+ threads. I've watched it count as high as 40,000 today!. Well, there ain't 40,000 threads in there. My guess: Not only are the Members getting caught in this loop, but so is the index function. Not good. I've done a manual inspection of the files and can find no problem.....generally, we'll see a thread with a size of 0....that's a dead givaway. We're not that lucky today. At this point, I've hacked the index script to print the actual thread it's working on as it goes. Hopefully, it'll hit a certain number and then begin spitting that same number out over and over. Bingo, the culprit! (I hope) Well, that's more info than you all required, but at least as much as you deserve for the quick alert and your patience. One of these days, I'm gonna enroll in a Perl course. This learning on the fly is a bear. Sure am glad I didn't pick this week to give up sniffin' glue! Rich

October 4, 2000, 11:27 PM	#21
Gary H Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2000 Location: Texas Posts: 2,267	Rich: Thanks for the update. Perhaps we have been placing an excessive number of Gore quotes and the server just can't take it anymore. I know how it feels!

October 5, 2000, 01:59 AM	#22
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	Got it. http://www.thefiringline.com:8080/fo...threadid=29354 Rich [This message has been edited by Rich Lucibella (edited October 05, 2000).]

October 5, 2000, 02:20 AM	#23
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	I just tried to post a thank you to Rich n DZ n Lawdawg over on legal and got the below error msg.........you guys havin a long bad night and the work is appreciated...Sam Sorry, but you are not authorized to post a reply in this particular forum. Only moderators, administrators, and users granted proper permission may post replies in this forum.

October 5, 2000, 06:08 AM	#24
Ed Brunner Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 1998 Location: Natchez, MS, USA Posts: 2,562	C.R. Sam; Me too. Did you get the MUSIC? ------------------ You have to be there when it's all over. Otherwise you can't say "I told you so." Better days to be, Ed

October 5, 2000, 07:09 AM	#25
TheBluesMan Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 15, 1999 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,558	You're right guys. Rich set the Legal forum to be private so he could work on it while it was still up. Looks like it needs to be reset to be public again. We'll have an administrator fix this ASAP and we can go back in and vent!