H&K MP2000?

Titan · April 23, 1999, 06:33 AM

I just finished reading "The Enemy Within" by Larry Bond. In it he mentioned about an H&K MP2000 with integral suppressor. Heard of this?

Thanks for any info!

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"it is better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot" -- anonymous

fal308 · April 23, 1999, 09:39 AM

HK MP2000 was the predecessor to the UMP according to SAR. Tried to access HKPRO as they probably have an image. Couldn't access site though. Will try another time.

Titan · May 8, 1999, 12:40 AM

thanks, fal308. i ofund a pic link at www.moreammmo.com

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Daniel Watters · May 8, 1999, 10:36 AM

Your picture shows a UMP45, not the MP2000 prototype. Other than a straight vertical foregrip and an overall boxy shape, they don't have much in common.

The MP2000 was one of a series of HK prototypes meant to improve on the MP5; other prototype models included the SMG-I, SMG-II, and HK 54A1. Each of these possessed a barrel venting system that worked in conjunction with a detachable suppressor that screwed _inside_ the receiver/forearm. You could open the vents when the suppressor was attached to ensure that ordinarily supersonic cartridges were reduced in velocity to subsonic levels for even less noise signature. Or you could keep the vents closed with subsonic ammunition to prevent further velocity reduction. (Obviously, you'd keep the vents closed when the surpressor was removed.) Another feature of these models was their retracting shoulder stock that closed flush with the rear of the receiver; no gaps like the MP5A3.

The MP2000 was unique among these prototypes in offering an optional bolt lock for the suppression of even mechanical sounds. The MP2000 also had an automatic bolt hold-open feature when the last shot was fired; however, it did not have a separate bolt release latch like the MP5/10, MP5/40, and UMP45. Cocking handles were positioned on both sides of the receiver above the ejection port, and the magazine release was located _inside_ the trigger guard.

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BlkHawk73 · May 8, 1999, 12:51 PM

There's info on the MP2000 at http://www.unsuave.com/~hkpro/MP2000.htm

Titan · May 9, 1999, 12:39 AM

Daniel -- ooppss!

I knew it was the UMP45 but forgot to write so. Thanks for the correction and information!

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"it is better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot" -- anonymous

jcoleman · July 27, 1999, 08:09 PM

HKPRO is great. If you're an HK fan/admirer, it's a must for every HKfan's "Favorites" folder.

Any other great gunsites out there that you can recommend. I've started gathering a hefty list to go on the site I'm working on. I don't want to leave any good ones out.

Thanks for your time,

John Coleman

April 23, 1999, 06:33 AM	#1
Titan Junior Member Join Date: April 22, 1999 Location: Davao City, Philippines Posts: 3	I just finished reading "The Enemy Within" by Larry Bond. In it he mentioned about an H&K MP2000 with integral suppressor. Heard of this? Thanks for any info! ------------------ "it is better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot" -- anonymous

April 23, 1999, 09:39 AM	#2
fal308 Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 12, 1998 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,992	HK MP2000 was the predecessor to the UMP according to SAR. Tried to access HKPRO as they probably have an image. Couldn't access site though. Will try another time.

May 8, 1999, 12:40 AM	#3
Titan Junior Member Join Date: April 22, 1999 Location: Davao City, Philippines Posts: 3	thanks, fal308. i ofund a pic link at www.moreammmo.com [This message has been edited by Titan (edited May 08, 1999).]

May 8, 1999, 10:36 AM	#4
Daniel Watters Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 644	Your picture shows a UMP45, not the MP2000 prototype. Other than a straight vertical foregrip and an overall boxy shape, they don't have much in common. The MP2000 was one of a series of HK prototypes meant to improve on the MP5; other prototype models included the SMG-I, SMG-II, and HK 54A1. Each of these possessed a barrel venting system that worked in conjunction with a detachable suppressor that screwed _inside_ the receiver/forearm. You could open the vents when the suppressor was attached to ensure that ordinarily supersonic cartridges were reduced in velocity to subsonic levels for even less noise signature. Or you could keep the vents closed with subsonic ammunition to prevent further velocity reduction. (Obviously, you'd keep the vents closed when the surpressor was removed.) Another feature of these models was their retracting shoulder stock that closed flush with the rear of the receiver; no gaps like the MP5A3. The MP2000 was unique among these prototypes in offering an optional bolt lock for the suppression of even mechanical sounds. The MP2000 also had an automatic bolt hold-open feature when the last shot was fired; however, it did not have a separate bolt release latch like the MP5/10, MP5/40, and UMP45. Cocking handles were positioned on both sides of the receiver above the ejection port, and the magazine release was located _inside_ the trigger guard. [This message has been edited by Daniel Watters (edited May 08, 1999).]

May 8, 1999, 12:51 PM	#5
BlkHawk73 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 1999 Location: Maine Posts: 756	There's info on the MP2000 at http://www.unsuave.com/~hkpro/MP2000.htm

May 9, 1999, 12:39 AM	#6
Titan Junior Member Join Date: April 22, 1999 Location: Davao City, Philippines Posts: 3	Daniel -- ooppss! I knew it was the UMP45 but forgot to write so. Thanks for the correction and information! ------------------ "it is better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot" -- anonymous

July 27, 1999, 08:09 PM	#7
jcoleman Member Join Date: July 20, 1999 Posts: 49	HKPRO is great. If you're an HK fan/admirer, it's a must for every HKfan's "Favorites" folder. Any other great gunsites out there that you can recommend. I've started gathering a hefty list to go on the site I'm working on. I don't want to leave any good ones out. Thanks for your time, John Coleman