can i use wolf small mag. pistol with 9mm with 700x

HappySig · March 28, 2011, 05:31 PM

can i use wolf small mag. pistol primers with 9mm with 3.8 grains of 700x and a berry's 124 gr plated RN?

Thanks everybody

Clark · March 28, 2011, 06:50 PM

With AA#5 and working up in 9mm 115 until the brass fails, if I switch to small pistol magnum primers and work up again, the threshold comes 0.7 gr of powder sooner.

The change to pressure of changing to magnum primers may be the same as increasing the powder charge by .7 gr, but I doubt the velocity goes up as much as it does from adding .7 gr.

Shoney · March 28, 2011, 08:47 PM

Clark

The burn rate of 700X is close Bullseye and AA2, and their relative burn rate varies with the chart you look at, as all three are listed as the fastest in different charts. And all are quite a bit faster than AA5.

Do you have any info on comparison of BE and AA2 rather than AA5?

Clark · March 28, 2011, 11:51 PM

No,
and that was a miserable work up.

I like to get to the threshold of brass failure in Ruger #1 rifles, not little Kel-Tec pistols.

I just randomly picked up a load book with AA#5 and Bullseye loads for 9mm.
The BE is 70% of the AA#5, so if we extrapolate on a vodoo load book, we would have:

switch to magnum primer = .5 gr Bullseye.

March 28, 2011, 06:50 PM	#2
Clark Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 1999 Location: WA, the ever blue state Posts: 4,678	With AA#5 and working up in 9mm 115 until the brass fails, if I switch to small pistol magnum primers and work up again, the threshold comes 0.7 gr of powder sooner. The change to pressure of changing to magnum primers may be the same as increasing the powder charge by .7 gr, but I doubt the velocity goes up as much as it does from adding .7 gr. __________________ The word 'forum" does not mean "not criticizing books." "Ad hominem fallacy" is not the same as point by point criticism of books. If you bought the book, and believe it all, it may FEEL like an ad hominem attack, but you might strive to accept other points of view may exist. Are we a nation of competing ideas, or a nation of forced conformity of thought?

March 28, 2011, 08:47 PM	#3
Shoney Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2002 Location: Transplanted from Montana Posts: 2,311	Clark The burn rate of 700X is close Bullseye and AA2, and their relative burn rate varies with the chart you look at, as all three are listed as the fastest in different charts. And all are quite a bit faster than AA5. Do you have any info on comparison of BE and AA2 rather than AA5? __________________ I pledge allegiance to the Flag - - -, and to the Republic for which it stands….Our Forefathers were brilliant for giving us a Republic, not a democracy! Do you know the difference??? and WHY?http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue...les.asp?id=111

March 28, 2011, 11:51 PM	#4
Clark Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 1999 Location: WA, the ever blue state Posts: 4,678	No, and that was a miserable work up. I like to get to the threshold of brass failure in Ruger #1 rifles, not little Kel-Tec pistols. I just randomly picked up a load book with AA#5 and Bullseye loads for 9mm. The BE is 70% of the AA#5, so if we extrapolate on a vodoo load book, we would have: switch to magnum primer = .5 gr Bullseye. __________________ The word 'forum" does not mean "not criticizing books." "Ad hominem fallacy" is not the same as point by point criticism of books. If you bought the book, and believe it all, it may FEEL like an ad hominem attack, but you might strive to accept other points of view may exist. Are we a nation of competing ideas, or a nation of forced conformity of thought?

March 28, 2011, 05:31 PM	#1
HappySig Member Join Date: March 16, 2010 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 51	can i use wolf small mag. pistol with 9mm with 700x can i use wolf small mag. pistol primers with 9mm with 3.8 grains of 700x and a berry's 124 gr plated RN? Thanks everybody