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Old May 9, 2009, 09:25 PM   #51
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I just happened to see a creative way to know if your pal is carrying or not this afternoon. Half as a joke, half serious two of my co-workers hugged at an off-duty social function, the hug was very close and the hands went to the small of the back and gently felt their way around the waist. One said "You're hot." The other said "Why aren't you?".

Luckily I was only on my first drink so I caught on and knew who to hide behind in case someone came to steel the Shiner.
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Old May 10, 2009, 06:25 PM   #52
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Old May 10, 2009, 07:13 PM   #53
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Q: Are you carrying?
A: Are you wearing boxers, briefs, or a man-thong?
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Old May 11, 2009, 10:40 PM   #54
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I'm just holding for a friend.
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Old May 11, 2009, 11:09 PM   #55
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Old May 14, 2009, 12:06 AM   #56
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"Are you carrying?"

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Old May 14, 2009, 04:35 AM   #57
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Scorpian, Was this hug a man and woman or 2 women? If 'tween men that is a blatant violation of man rules... when a hug is warranted it is to be one arm each above opposite shoulder and one arm around the back but not at low waist ready and no sliding gropes allowed
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Old May 14, 2009, 06:51 AM   #58
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Good friends and co-workers know to ask "What are you carrying?" as the answer to "are you" is always yes.
Wife only checks when in a long wait at a restaraunt. If its busy she'll go for a bar table, that only works if I just left church (illegal here).
As a previous poster said "If its properly concealed, why would they ask?"
LEO "Yes Sir, 1 o'clock IWB, permits in my wallet. How would you like to handle this?"
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Old May 14, 2009, 07:39 AM   #59
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"Are you carrying?"

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Old May 14, 2009, 12:01 PM   #60
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"Are you carrying?"
"What?"
"Are you carrying?"
"What?"
"Are you carrying?"
"What?"
"Are you carrying?"
"What?"

....and so on.....
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Old May 14, 2009, 12:31 PM   #61
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I tend to avoid foolish questions like this.

If I'm asked by a LEO, I will say yes and then proceed to identify myself and produce creds. I can't remember the last time a non-LEO ever even asked me such a question.

For those of you that may think I don't carry off duty.

Just to give an example, I recently got drug, kicking and screaming I might add, to a party with a bunch of Engineers from Raytheon in the desert southwest. I was drug there by my better half, and dress was casual. I was wearing Cargo Shorts and flip-flops if that's any indication as to how casual.

I wore two guns, concealed of course and had four reloads, as well as my usual compliment of two knives. Nobody tumbled on to the fact that I was carrying one gun, let alone my usual two.

This is really a question that a concealed carrier or off duty LEO should never receive. If you folks are receiving these questions I would look at two things. First, either your concealment sucks, and needs vast improvement, or you have opened your mouth and let your brains dribble out, telling the world.

Something to think about. BTW: the two guns I was carrying? One was a Browning High Power, the other was a J-Frame.

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Old May 27, 2009, 08:13 AM   #62
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Old May 27, 2009, 08:22 AM   #63
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Are you carrying?

All of my friends already know the answer to that question.
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Old May 27, 2009, 11:22 AM   #64
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Back in my folks' day the question was "Are you holding?"

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Old May 27, 2009, 09:32 PM   #65
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It appears I have been censored... probably rightly so ... my post was a little, uh, crude . Just being creative, that was a stipulation by the OP , guess I was a little too creative.
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Old May 27, 2009, 10:43 PM   #66
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If it's someone I know, I answer the question. If it's someone I don't know, I don't.
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Old May 27, 2009, 11:29 PM   #67
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As a previous poster said "If its properly concealed, why would they ask?"
Because they bumped into it, or accidentally felt it during a friendly hug or any other way of becoming aware of it outside of visually.

If it is someone I know, I usually just answer to the affirmative if I am, or in the negative if I am not. As long as it's legal and I know the person, what's the big deal? It is especially important to be clear and honest while in someone's home or on their property.

If a stranger were to ask, however, I would just tell them to mind their own business. This has never happened to me.

For Law Enforcement Officers, I would obviously be up front and honest.
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Old May 28, 2009, 09:17 PM   #68
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"... completely depends on who is asking and how they are asking." Absolutely!

However, most, if not all, the serious or semi-ambiguous answers suggested, not being a denial or effectively evasive, are tantamount to admitting you are carrying, or at least likely to be.

Better than smart answers is an effective change of subject. For example, "Carrying ......... hey, did you see that guy almost hit that woman crossing the road ; should we call it in ...?" etc.

I entertain folks on my private range occasionally, and conversation often turns to concealed carry; I'm happy to tell them all I know about it, so "the question" often arises. Since most of my closest friends don't know I carry, I don't want to answer.

Since I am among gunnies, I can say " it is bad form to ask, because it is to my disadvantage either for people to know if I'm armed or not" . That is a reasoned ambiguous response.

When a person knows I at least sometimes carry, I'll say no more than "I carry occasionally" when the question is about NOW.

I have never been asked by someone who has no clue about my habits. I'd try to avoid all responses that suggest I know about CC. "Whatever makes you think that?" would reveal what tack to take in dealing with the situation.

They might have seen or felt something, in which case a response is tough : . You might get away with "It's a multitool" (to my mind a gun IS a multiool), but if they ask to see the multitool, you are going to have problems and directness may be wisest. Better to say one is a trained, licensed carrier, and ask for confidentiality, than leave doubts, IMO.

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Old May 30, 2009, 08:01 PM   #69
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Carrying?

Perhaps I am over cautious. I have never had any one ask me if I was carrying and have been for nearly 30 years. The only time someone did ask, was a co-worker (who carries also) just to make sure when we were in a questionable situation.

I go to great lengths to make sure that my package is not obvious. Wife beater shirt and a loose button up shirt worn on outside of trousers hides nearly anything in warmer weather, otherwise a jacket will hide my ccw.

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Old May 30, 2009, 08:20 PM   #70
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Yes Iam carrying, Its a baby elephant want to see the trunk? Or something rude like that.
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Old May 31, 2009, 12:01 AM   #71
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"Are you carrying a gun"?

"No, I'm just REALLY happy to see you"

errr...maybe that's not really that good
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Old May 31, 2009, 02:01 AM   #72
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Old May 31, 2009, 09:20 AM   #73
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to a co worker on the job. "no that is against company policy, I may not like the policy, I do like my job."
A family member "since when have I not"
A friend that knows me well will just ask what I am carrying
Other than that the awnser is just "no that is why run every day, keeps the extra weight off, I do not like to cary any extra body weight"
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Old May 31, 2009, 09:39 AM   #74
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"If you have to ask,you don't need to know"

Or-" I don't answer questions like that"
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Old May 31, 2009, 02:26 PM   #75
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All of my friends already know that I am. A cop gets an honest answer. Anyone else SHOULD know better than to ask that kind of question, so I'll just assume they had not spoken. If they get upset that I'm not answering their invasive interrogation, then my only response is, "I have difficulty understanding stupid questioners."
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