10 to 7 round mags ?

rebs · January 14, 2013, 09:25 PM

Can a 10 round mag be made to hold only 7 rounds ?
I mean can the floor plate be removed and something put inside the mag so it will only accept 7 rounds ?

Alabama Shooter · January 14, 2013, 09:29 PM

Yes. You could put a block or a screw in the bottom. Would not suggest it unless you live in NY.

Jeff H · January 14, 2013, 09:54 PM

Sure you could put a wood spacer in but I must ask why. 7 rounds is an odd number. Is there some proposed legislation somewhere that would make you ask the question?

stu925 · January 14, 2013, 10:00 PM

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Yes. You could put a block or a screw in the bottom. Would not suggest it unless you live in NY.

Not even necessary in NY 10 rounders are legal here. Although magazine limit while hunting is 5 rounds.

Stu

123kiwi · January 14, 2013, 10:00 PM

We have the 7 round rule in New Zealand, its really quite bizarre. Mags are either 5 or 10 round so I have no idea why the number 7 was chosen?
I think logic did not prevail here

NWPilgrim · January 14, 2013, 10:04 PM

Sure just remove your backbone and put an unused portion in bottom of mag.

Seriously, though on AR15 mags 20-rd mags are made into 10-rdrs by punching in a small square of the sheetmetal side to stop the travel if the follower. That qualified in CA for new purchase (mfg did the indent) and is easily removed with a drill or Dremel when you move out of state.

UtopiaTexasG19 · January 14, 2013, 10:05 PM

7 round limit proposed in NY
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=512437

musher · January 14, 2013, 10:07 PM

I'm guessing the op is thinking about this New York state legislation that the tea leaf readers believe is going to pass

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/01/...n-gun-control/

Drops mag limit to 7, among other things.

Darn, beat by Texas. Pretty embarrassing for an Alaska boy.

carguychris · January 14, 2013, 10:12 PM

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Mags are either 5 or 10 round so I have no idea why the number 7 was chosen?

If this requirement has been around for a few decades, I'm betting that the reason for the 7rd limit was to allow M1911s to be legally owned, but not Luger P.08's or Walther P.38's.

TPAW · January 15, 2013, 12:19 AM

Reducing the mag from 10 to 7 is one thing, what about spring tension? Will that be compromised?

DesertFox5768 · January 15, 2013, 12:38 AM

This should terrify gun owners for the precedent. I'd never even heard serious talk of a map cap of below 10 until now, and apparently this is going to pass. That means future mag cap legislation on state and national levels could start at 7 instead of 10!

Instead of, "What do you need more than 10 rounds for?" the question could become "What do you need more than 7 rounds for?" I feel bad for law-abiding citizens of NY and hope this gets amended, defeated, or thrown out by the courts, but this is terrible news. I'm shocked that I'm not seeing much more about it on gun forums.

9mm · January 15, 2013, 01:17 AM

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Not even necessary in NY 10 rounders are legal here. Although magazine limit while hunting is 5 rounds.

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Ammunition magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine could face a misdemeanor charge.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2I1RKorFD

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...ew-york-state/

mete · January 15, 2013, 01:29 AM

Handguns ? The 1911 has a 7 round mag !

Has anyone seen comment by NYS about financial compensation for these firearms ?

Dr Big Bird PhD · January 15, 2013, 02:03 AM

Woah... Did the NY bill really pass?

Ignition Override · January 15, 2013, 02:47 AM

Will the guns carried by NY politicians' bodyguards hold only seven (maybe +1) rounds, IF this passes?

I doubt that those guys could stop three attackers with seven rounds.

BarryLee · January 15, 2013, 02:58 AM

A perfect example of why compromise is never going to work. I have heard several folks over the last few weeks state that everyone should be able to agree on ten round magazines. Well, guess what? Once they get them down to ten then they start working to reduce it to seven and then to eliminate guns altogether.

DesertFox5768 · January 15, 2013, 04:17 AM

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A perfect example of why compromise is never going to work. I have heard several folks over the last few weeks state that everyone should be able to agree on ten round magazines. Well, guess what? Once they get them down to ten then they start working to reduce it to seven and then to eliminate guns altogether.

Bull's eye.

"Why do you need more than seven rounds?" becomes "Why do you need more than two rounds?" becomes "Why do you need a gun when you have a phone?"

UtopiaTexasG19 · January 15, 2013, 07:08 AM

All the proposals for the 7 round magazines will use the word "permanent" so all the talk on gun forums about "spacers" and "tabs" isn't going to cut it this time around. Quit thinking that the other side is stupid. Not every liberal is like Feinstein.

rebs · January 15, 2013, 07:58 AM

NYS passed a new gun law allowing you to keep 10 round magazines as long as you only load 7 rounds. So I need to get some before its signed into law. If anyone has some, let me know.

bumnote · January 15, 2013, 08:14 AM

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All the proposals for the 7 round magazines will use the word "permanent" so all the talk on gun forums about "spacers" and "tabs" isn't going to cut it this time around. Quit thinking that the other side is stupid.

This was my thinking about the subject. The reality is they want to limit magazine capacity to 5. No one is going to a make a 7 round AR magazine, and they can 7 is a "compromise" between 5 and 10, but the reality will likely be 5 rounds will be the limit imposed simply because I doubt anyone is going to manufacture a 7 round magazine strictly for NY.

spacecoast · January 15, 2013, 08:36 AM

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Woah... Did the NY bill really pass?

Heard on the news this morning that it passed one house of the legislature 43-18, and was expected to pass the other easily this morning, then all it needs is the governor's signature and he's in favor.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...ew-york-state/

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"It is well-balanced, it protects the Second Amendment," said Senate Republican leader Dean Skelos of Long Island. "And there is no confiscation of weapons, which was at one time being considered".

JimPage · January 15, 2013, 08:43 AM

The bill passed. It stinks.

Ten round mags can be used if only loaded with seven rounds. That's the least of the lousy things in this bill.

@#$%^&*(

spacecoast · January 15, 2013, 08:45 AM

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Ten round mags can be used if only loaded with seven rounds

Also heard that you would have a year to get rid of your "hi-cap" 8 rounds or higher magazines.

That's going to hurt a lot of the 1911 crowd as well.

Maxb49 · January 15, 2013, 08:58 AM

The are numerous issues with this bill.

There's a takings clause issue. There's an ex post facto issue. There's also a Heller and McDonald issue.

Alabama Shooter · January 15, 2013, 10:05 AM

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Reducing the mag from 10 to 7 is one thing, what about spring tension? Will that be compromised?

No. It will work the same as if you fired three rounds out of a ten round magazine.

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All the proposals for the 7 round magazines will use the word "permanent" so all the talk on gun forums about "spacers" and "tabs" isn't going to cut it this time around.

If I screw something in place with a tamper proof screw it is permanent. If the law proscribes something different than that is something different.

January 14, 2013, 09:25 PM	#1
rebs Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 3,881	10 to 7 round mags ? Can a 10 round mag be made to hold only 7 rounds ? I mean can the floor plate be removed and something put inside the mag so it will only accept 7 rounds ?

January 14, 2013, 09:29 PM	#2
Alabama Shooter Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2012 Location: Sweet Home Posts: 886	Yes. You could put a block or a screw in the bottom. Would not suggest it unless you live in NY. __________________ Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.

January 15, 2013, 01:29 AM	#13
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	Handguns ? The 1911 has a 7 round mag ! Has anyone seen comment by NYS about financial compensation for these firearms ? __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

January 15, 2013, 02:03 AM	#14
Dr Big Bird PhD Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 779	Woah... Did the NY bill really pass? __________________ I told the new me, "Meet me at the bus station and hold a sign that reads: 'Today is the first day of the rest of your life.'" But the old me met me with a sign that read: "Welcome back." Who you are is not a function of where you are. -Off Minor

January 15, 2013, 02:58 AM	#16
BarryLee Senior Member Join Date: July 29, 2010 Location: The ATL (OTP) Posts: 3,946	A perfect example of why compromise is never going to work. I have heard several folks over the last few weeks state that everyone should be able to agree on ten round magazines. Well, guess what? Once they get them down to ten then they start working to reduce it to seven and then to eliminate guns altogether. __________________ A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it ... gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

January 14, 2013, 09:54 PM	#3
Jeff H Senior Member Join Date: August 20, 2009 Posts: 176	Sure you could put a wood spacer in but I must ask why. 7 rounds is an odd number. Is there some proposed legislation somewhere that would make you ask the question?

January 14, 2013, 10:00 PM	#5
123kiwi Member Join Date: March 23, 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 85	We have the 7 round rule in New Zealand, its really quite bizarre. Mags are either 5 or 10 round so I have no idea why the number 7 was chosen? I think logic did not prevail here

January 14, 2013, 10:04 PM	#6
NWPilgrim Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,346	Sure just remove your backbone and put an unused portion in bottom of mag. Seriously, though on AR15 mags 20-rd mags are made into 10-rdrs by punching in a small square of the sheetmetal side to stop the travel if the follower. That qualified in CA for new purchase (mfg did the indent) and is easily removed with a drill or Dremel when you move out of state.

January 14, 2013, 10:05 PM	#7
UtopiaTexasG19 Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2011 Location: S.E. Texas Gulf Coast Posts: 743	7 round limit proposed in NY http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=512437

January 14, 2013, 10:07 PM	#8
musher Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2005 Posts: 462	I'm guessing the op is thinking about this New York state legislation that the tea leaf readers believe is going to pass http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/01/...n-gun-control/ Drops mag limit to 7, among other things. Darn, beat by Texas. Pretty embarrassing for an Alaska boy.

January 15, 2013, 12:19 AM	#10
TPAW Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2005 Posts: 2,860	Reducing the mag from 10 to 7 is one thing, what about spring tension? Will that be compromised?

January 15, 2013, 12:38 AM	#11
DesertFox5768 Member Join Date: February 28, 2002 Posts: 32	This should terrify gun owners for the precedent. I'd never even heard serious talk of a map cap of below 10 until now, and apparently this is going to pass. That means future mag cap legislation on state and national levels could start at 7 instead of 10! Instead of, "What do you need more than 10 rounds for?" the question could become "What do you need more than 7 rounds for?" I feel bad for law-abiding citizens of NY and hope this gets amended, defeated, or thrown out by the courts, but this is terrible news. I'm shocked that I'm not seeing much more about it on gun forums.

January 15, 2013, 02:47 AM	#15
Ignition Override Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2008 Location: About 20 nm from the Big Muddy Posts: 2,887	Will the guns carried by NY politicians' bodyguards hold only seven (maybe +1) rounds, IF this passes? I doubt that those guys could stop three attackers with seven rounds.

January 15, 2013, 07:08 AM	#18
UtopiaTexasG19 Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2011 Location: S.E. Texas Gulf Coast Posts: 743	All the proposals for the 7 round magazines will use the word "permanent" so all the talk on gun forums about "spacers" and "tabs" isn't going to cut it this time around. Quit thinking that the other side is stupid. Not every liberal is like Feinstein.

January 15, 2013, 07:58 AM	#19
rebs Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 3,881	NYS passed a new gun law allowing you to keep 10 round magazines as long as you only load 7 rounds. So I need to get some before its signed into law. If anyone has some, let me know.

January 15, 2013, 08:43 AM	#22
JimPage Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2010 Location: Rome, NY Posts: 941	The bill passed. It stinks. Ten round mags can be used if only loaded with seven rounds. That's the least of the lousy things in this bill. @#$%^&( __________________ Jim Page Cogito, ergo armatum sum*

January 15, 2013, 08:58 AM	#24
Maxb49 Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2007 Location: Jamestown, New York Posts: 256	The are numerous issues with this bill. There's a takings clause issue. There's an ex post facto issue. There's also a Heller and McDonald issue.