Emp Whats The Hype

mrt949 · February 13, 2009, 07:10 PM

emp whats the big deal to some people.is it worth the cost.

BanditSRT8 · February 13, 2009, 07:30 PM

Not hype at all.

Hand fit slide to frame.

Match grade barrel fit.

Crisp, clean trigger.

Insanely accurate.

Production gun built to the quality level you'd expect from a custom or semi-custom for twice the price.

I held off for a bit doubting the gun because of the price, but I jumped for the hell of it. One of the best guns I have ever owned... and I've owned some greats.

It is now pretty much the only gun that will bump my beloved P7M8 from its daily carry spot.

troy_mclure · February 13, 2009, 07:45 PM

ive been wanting one for a while, its #3 on my gun list.

holypaper · February 13, 2009, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Not hype at all.

Hand fit slide to frame.

Match grade barrel fit.

Crisp, clean trigger.

Insanely accurate.

Production gun built to the quality level you'd expect from a custom or semi-custom for twice the price.

You left out freakin' gorgeous

RepeatDefender · February 13, 2009, 07:49 PM

Nothing against the 9mm (I carry a Kahr PM9 quite often), but if I'm gonna tote a 1911, it will be in .45acp.

David the Gnome · February 13, 2009, 07:57 PM

It's not really a 1911 though. It's just a sub-compact 9mm that is based on the 1911 pattern.

mrt949 · February 13, 2009, 07:57 PM

Looked at them at the shot show next to the micro 45 .side by side did not notice a big difference for the money.

orchidhunter · February 13, 2009, 08:04 PM

"is it worth the cost?" no. It's a Minnie Me 1911. orchidhunter

BanditSRT8 · February 13, 2009, 10:47 PM

mrt: the differences won't likely be all that noticeable from the outside.

Unlike previous micro 1911s that were built as .45ACP pistols rechambered for 9mm, this model was the first 1911 to be built specifically around the 9mm cartridge, hence the tremendous expense in manufacturing. It's never cheap to be the "1st" at anything.

The EMP may be one of the world's few "perfect" pistols. Well, as close to perfect as can reasonably expected.

When you shoot one, you fall in love. The recoil is as low as my P7M8. The muzzle flip is also that low. It is unresonably accurate for its size. What I mean is... we expected it to be dead-on accurate at combat distance, but for a goof we dropped the target against the back wall and it shot a group that I would have only expected from a 5" custom tuned 1911.

Once broken in, it became my newest daily carry piece. It is lightweight, compact, and easy to conceal. All that without the spotty reliability history of the micro .45 1911.

I've said it before, I'll say it again... the price put me off at first, but after jumping in and getting to know the EMP.... I would gladly pay DOUBLE. That's how good it is.

BanditSRT8 · February 13, 2009, 10:49 PM

orchidhunter: Don't speak in such generalities... quantify your statement.

The OP is seriously considering this gun, and needs facts and information, not speculation and BS.

Do you own one? Have you shot one? Why do you feel it is not worth the price?

I have yet to hear from any EMP owner, anything but glowing reports and validation of the cost.

stevewonderful · February 13, 2009, 11:07 PM

orchidhunter · February 13, 2009, 11:21 PM

BanditSRT8, "emp whats the big deal to some people.is it worth the cost" It don't sound like he is on the way out the door to buy one. It's all SA hype. Those that bought one don't like to admit they made a bad move, on a public forum. Is it worth the cost NO. orchidhunter

BanditSRT8 · February 13, 2009, 11:47 PM

Again I ask... why do YOU think it's not worth the cost?

Most here will tell you that I am not afraid to speak my mind, and I certainly have no shame in talking about anything on a public forum... besides, who knows me? Why would I be embarrassed? Hell, I bought a damn Kimber, and realized what a stupid mistake that was... and have freely and openly discussed it right here on this forum.

So tell me... why is it not worth the price? And have you ever shot one to actually know? Doubtful.

CDH · February 14, 2009, 12:13 AM

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... "emp whats the big deal to some people.is it worth the cost" It don't sound like he is on the way out the door to buy one. It's all SA hype. Those that bought one don't like to admit they made a bad move, on a public forum. Is it worth the cost NO. orchidhunter

And those who have not bought them and handled them and shot them and carried them have no clue.

I have an early EMP in the "3xx" serial number range, and it's been one of my most "special" pistols among all of them.

Quality of fit and finish, it's freakin' gorgeous, and it feels like an extension of my hand and shoots like a dream. Worth every penny.
The EMP isn't just another smallish 1911; it's a one-of-a-kind design, and no one else offers anything "exactly" like it.
The EMP is NOT in the same class as the ubiquitous compact 1911's. It's totally different, and those who have one understand what I'm talking about.

I originally bought it for daily carry but fell so much in love with it that I ended up not doing so. I want to keep it looking new as long as I have it, and holster wear just ain't gonna' get it with this baby.
In the end when I get old enough to have to start selling off the collection, the EMP will be one of the very last, if not the last, to go.

Those who have them understand. Those who don't will just continue to not have a clue.

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"is it worth the cost?" no. It's a Minnie Me 1911. orchidhunter

That you believe the EMP to be a "Minnie Me 1911" is proof of your not having personal knowledge of the pistol.

BillCoe · February 14, 2009, 01:19 AM

Orchardhunter, have you ever touched one? I haven't either. However, the guy I bought both a Les Baer and a highly accurate Sig SAuer P220 - (West German made model no less) told me that an EMP was the most accurate pistol he'd ever shot. He regretted having sold it.

I'd never heard of one until then. Still haven't touched one. That's about what I know.

WVfishguy · February 14, 2009, 01:30 AM

Some one let me shoot their EMP at the range. Good lord, it was sweet. It's pricey, but the folks who have them tell me it's worth it. I'd love to have one.

mrt949 · February 14, 2009, 07:04 AM

Bandit thank you for your input it you think it is up to hk's hype .i might put it on my short list . you only live once .you get the best you can afford . last year i bought a seecamp 32. never looked back .owned all of .kt/s nna.and beretta.to name a few .you get what you pay fore.

Big Ben · February 14, 2009, 08:01 AM

If you don't like the idea of a mini 9mm 1911 then get the 40 cal; I did. This gun is very well made and indeed built around the shorter cartridge. No other 1911 style handgun will fit in the hand and conceal the way the EMP will; period. If you do not like the cost then don't order one; thats fine with the numerous folks out there waiting for this allocated gun.

mrt949 · February 14, 2009, 08:15 AM

big ben where did you find a 40 .i shoot 40 's in my m@p's thats my option.to keep one caliber for autos thanks in advance

Big Ben · February 14, 2009, 02:59 PM

I believe they have one in the case at Atlantic Gun And Tackle in Brecksville; Ohio. Guys are nice and the price is fair; not great but fair.

PeterGunn · February 14, 2009, 03:03 PM

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BanditSRT8, "emp whats the big deal to some people.is it worth the cost" It don't sound like he is on the way out the door to buy one. It's all SA hype. Those that bought one don't like to admit they made a bad move, on a public forum. Is it worth the cost NO. orchidhunter

And the flower power keeps on coming...

Microgunner · February 14, 2009, 03:14 PM

This is one slick little carry piece. Even Threegun, who thinks Glocks are the only pistols worth owning, tried to get it from me. It's impressive to carry and shoot.

mrt949 · February 14, 2009, 03:25 PM

Went to 3 gun shops with in a 70 mile radius no luck 9mm or 40 sw.

guess no valentine president for me.i guess i will order a 40.from my local pusher.

Big Ben · February 14, 2009, 04:36 PM

I've only seen one in a shop and that's the one I mentioned in the earlier post.

mrt949 · February 14, 2009, 04:51 PM

gun show in melbourne fl next week i will give it a shot

February 13, 2009, 07:10 PM	#1
mrt949 Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2008 Posts: 1,692	Emp Whats The Hype emp whats the big deal to some people.is it worth the cost. __________________ No Gun Big Or Small Does It All

February 13, 2009, 07:30 PM	#2
BanditSRT8 Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2007 Posts: 1,135	Not hype at all. Hand fit slide to frame. Match grade barrel fit. Crisp, clean trigger. Insanely accurate. Production gun built to the quality level you'd expect from a custom or semi-custom for twice the price. I held off for a bit doubting the gun because of the price, but I jumped for the hell of it. One of the best guns I have ever owned... and I've owned some greats. It is now pretty much the only gun that will bump my beloved P7M8 from its daily carry spot. __________________ XD9 SC 2 tone \| Glock 19 "Cogan Custom" \| HK45 \| HK P7M8 \| HK P30 \| Kimber Eclipse Pro II \| Springfield EMP \| Glock 19 TALO Limited Edition \| S&W 1911 Doug Koenig Edition Bi-Tone \| EAA Witness Elite "MATCH" \| XD40 Service V10 ported "Custom" \| Ruger LCP \| S&W M&P15 w/EOTech \| GSG-5 L \| FN FS2000 w/EOTech

February 13, 2009, 07:49 PM	#5
RepeatDefender Member Join Date: July 30, 2008 Location: GA Posts: 53	Nothing against the 9mm (I carry a Kahr PM9 quite often), but if I'm gonna tote a 1911, it will be in .45acp. __________________ GeorgiaCarry.org Member

February 13, 2009, 07:57 PM	#6
David the Gnome Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2007 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,092	It's not really a 1911 though. It's just a sub-compact 9mm that is based on the 1911 pattern. __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum.

February 13, 2009, 07:57 PM	#7
mrt949 Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2008 Posts: 1,692	Looked at them at the shot show next to the micro 45 .side by side did not notice a big difference for the money. __________________ No Gun Big Or Small Does It All

February 13, 2009, 07:45 PM	#3
troy_mclure Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: gulf of mexico Posts: 2,716	ive been wanting one for a while, its #3 on my gun list. __________________ There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."

February 13, 2009, 08:04 PM	#8
orchidhunter Junior member Join Date: December 1, 2008 Posts: 320	"is it worth the cost?" no. It's a Minnie Me 1911. orchidhunter

February 13, 2009, 10:47 PM	#9
BanditSRT8 Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2007 Posts: 1,135	mrt: the differences won't likely be all that noticeable from the outside. Unlike previous micro 1911s that were built as .45ACP pistols rechambered for 9mm, this model was the first 1911 to be built specifically around the 9mm cartridge, hence the tremendous expense in manufacturing. It's never cheap to be the "1st" at anything. The EMP may be one of the world's few "perfect" pistols. Well, as close to perfect as can reasonably expected. When you shoot one, you fall in love. The recoil is as low as my P7M8. The muzzle flip is also that low. It is unresonably accurate for its size. What I mean is... we expected it to be dead-on accurate at combat distance, but for a goof we dropped the target against the back wall and it shot a group that I would have only expected from a 5" custom tuned 1911. Once broken in, it became my newest daily carry piece. It is lightweight, compact, and easy to conceal. All that without the spotty reliability history of the micro .45 1911. I've said it before, I'll say it again... the price put me off at first, but after jumping in and getting to know the EMP.... I would gladly pay DOUBLE. That's how good it is. __________________ XD9 SC 2 tone \| Glock 19 "Cogan Custom" \| HK45 \| HK P7M8 \| HK P30 \| Kimber Eclipse Pro II \| Springfield EMP \| Glock 19 TALO Limited Edition \| S&W 1911 Doug Koenig Edition Bi-Tone \| EAA Witness Elite "MATCH" \| XD40 Service V10 ported "Custom" \| Ruger LCP \| S&W M&P15 w/EOTech \| GSG-5 L \| FN FS2000 w/EOTech

February 13, 2009, 10:49 PM	#10
BanditSRT8 Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2007 Posts: 1,135	orchidhunter: Don't speak in such generalities... quantify your statement. The OP is seriously considering this gun, and needs facts and information, not speculation and BS. Do you own one? Have you shot one? Why do you feel it is not worth the price? I have yet to hear from any EMP owner, anything but glowing reports and validation of the cost. __________________ XD9 SC 2 tone \| Glock 19 "Cogan Custom" \| HK45 \| HK P7M8 \| HK P30 \| Kimber Eclipse Pro II \| Springfield EMP \| Glock 19 TALO Limited Edition \| S&W 1911 Doug Koenig Edition Bi-Tone \| EAA Witness Elite "MATCH" \| XD40 Service V10 ported "Custom" \| Ruger LCP \| S&W M&P15 w/EOTech \| GSG-5 L \| FN FS2000 w/EOTech

February 13, 2009, 11:07 PM	#11
stevewonderful Junior Member Join Date: February 13, 2009 Posts: 3	__________________ "Paper money has had the effect that it will ever have, to ruin commerce, oppress the honest, and open the door to every species of fraud and injustice."- George Washington Last edited by stevewonderful; February 13, 2009 at 11:12 PM.

February 13, 2009, 11:21 PM	#12
orchidhunter Junior member Join Date: December 1, 2008 Posts: 320	BanditSRT8, "emp whats the big deal to some people.is it worth the cost" It don't sound like he is on the way out the door to buy one. It's all SA hype. Those that bought one don't like to admit they made a bad move, on a public forum. Is it worth the cost NO. orchidhunter

February 13, 2009, 11:47 PM	#13
BanditSRT8 Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2007 Posts: 1,135	Again I ask... why do YOU think it's not worth the cost? Most here will tell you that I am not afraid to speak my mind, and I certainly have no shame in talking about anything on a public forum... besides, who knows me? Why would I be embarrassed? Hell, I bought a damn Kimber, and realized what a stupid mistake that was... and have freely and openly discussed it right here on this forum. So tell me... why is it not worth the price? And have you ever shot one to actually know? Doubtful. __________________ XD9 SC 2 tone \| Glock 19 "Cogan Custom" \| HK45 \| HK P7M8 \| HK P30 \| Kimber Eclipse Pro II \| Springfield EMP \| Glock 19 TALO Limited Edition \| S&W 1911 Doug Koenig Edition Bi-Tone \| EAA Witness Elite "MATCH" \| XD40 Service V10 ported "Custom" \| Ruger LCP \| S&W M&P15 w/EOTech \| GSG-5 L \| FN FS2000 w/EOTech

February 14, 2009, 01:19 AM	#15
BillCoe Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2008 Posts: 121	Orchardhunter, have you ever touched one? I haven't either. However, the guy I bought both a Les Baer and a highly accurate Sig SAuer P220 - (West German made model no less) told me that an EMP was the most accurate pistol he'd ever shot. He regretted having sold it. I'd never heard of one until then. Still haven't touched one. That's about what I know.

February 14, 2009, 01:30 AM	#16
WVfishguy Senior Member Join Date: June 21, 2007 Location: Huntington, WV Posts: 662	Some one let me shoot their EMP at the range. Good lord, it was sweet. It's pricey, but the folks who have them tell me it's worth it. I'd love to have one. __________________ WWSD (What Would Skeeter Do?)

February 14, 2009, 07:04 AM	#17
mrt949 Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2008 Posts: 1,692	Bandit thank you for your input it you think it is up to hk's hype .i might put it on my short list . you only live once .you get the best you can afford . last year i bought a seecamp 32. never looked back .owned all of .kt/s nna.and beretta.to name a few .you get what you pay fore. __________________ No Gun Big Or Small Does It All

February 14, 2009, 08:01 AM	#18
Big Ben Member Join Date: February 13, 2009 Posts: 56	If you don't like the idea of a mini 9mm 1911 then get the 40 cal; I did. This gun is very well made and indeed built around the shorter cartridge. No other 1911 style handgun will fit in the hand and conceal the way the EMP will; period. If you do not like the cost then don't order one; thats fine with the numerous folks out there waiting for this allocated gun.

February 14, 2009, 08:15 AM	#19
mrt949 Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2008 Posts: 1,692	big ben where did you find a 40 .i shoot 40 's in my m@p's thats my option.to keep one caliber for autos thanks in advance __________________ No Gun Big Or Small Does It All

February 14, 2009, 02:59 PM	#20
Big Ben Member Join Date: February 13, 2009 Posts: 56	I believe they have one in the case at Atlantic Gun And Tackle in Brecksville; Ohio. Guys are nice and the price is fair; not great but fair. __________________ Kimber Pro Carry II Stainless TLE/RL (45acp) Sig Sauer P226 Elite Stainless (357 Sig) HK P30 (9mm) Springfield EMP (40 cal)...if it ever shows up!

February 14, 2009, 03:14 PM	#22
Microgunner Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 3,324	This is one slick little carry piece. Even Threegun, who thinks Glocks are the only pistols worth owning, tried to get it from me. It's impressive to carry and shoot. __________________ *Proud NRA Benefactor Member*

February 14, 2009, 03:25 PM	#23
mrt949 Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2008 Posts: 1,692	Went to 3 gun shops with in a 70 mile radius no luck 9mm or 40 sw. guess no valentine president for me.i guess i will order a 40.from my local pusher. __________________ No Gun Big Or Small Does It All

February 14, 2009, 04:36 PM	#24
Big Ben Member Join Date: February 13, 2009 Posts: 56	I've only seen one in a shop and that's the one I mentioned in the earlier post. __________________ Kimber Pro Carry II Stainless TLE/RL (45acp) Sig Sauer P226 Elite Stainless (357 Sig) HK P30 (9mm) Springfield EMP (40 cal)...if it ever shows up!

February 14, 2009, 04:51 PM	#25
mrt949 Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2008 Posts: 1,692	gun show in melbourne fl next week i will give it a shot __________________ No Gun Big Or Small Does It All