Fixed VS. Collapsible Stock - Page 2

jakethomas97 · December 11, 2015, 03:44 AM

There are two main reasons why I would want a fixed stock, and they are the only reasons out there.

Rigidity- best for the long range shots, etc.
Appearance- There's nothing sexier than a retro government 20" AR15.

Unfortunately appearance doesn't mean as much as diversity to me, and as for rigidity I can wrap a piece of paper or plastic around between the tube and stock and make it very stiff- one position in from farthest out.

This alone keeps me with the collapsible. In fact the bigger wobble factor is between my lower and upper, and unfortunately I have yet to find an acu-wedge-like solution that lasts.

Gunplummer · December 11, 2015, 04:49 AM

I agree with Quentin2. It has a place in hunting. I usually only take my AR out for deer in nasty weather, and then I walk in close, brushy places. When you have a heavy coat on and a backpack with thick straps, it really comes in handy. It is a lot faster to get on your shoulder when you are walking around jumping deer.

kcub · December 11, 2015, 06:20 AM

I have a SBR Krinkov that fits into an innocuous backpack with a 20 round mag inserted ready to rock and roll. It's my Katrina gun. I can appear unarmed and yet still have a long gun ready.

I'm not sure a SBR AR would be short enough for a backpack with that tube sticking out the back of the receiver. If it is maybe a collapsible or folding stock might work. Just not quite as compact as the AK. Maybe with a bigger backpack.

A really short SBR Saiga 12 gauge would be excellent.

Mobuck · December 11, 2015, 08:20 AM

Roughly 2/3 of our AR stable has collapsible stocks. I find the solid stock easier to shoot from sandbags but the adjustable has it's place on a hunting/SD rifle. The heavy barrel configuration balances better with a solid stock plus you can add ballast to offset that muzzle weight.

zukiphile · December 11, 2015, 09:25 AM

If you need a short length of pull, shorter than an A1, a stock that uses a carbine buffer tube makes a lot of sense. Length of pull is a personal issue, but seems a less acute issue if one uses traditional positions as opposed to positions adapted to use of armor.

One draw back of a carbine buffer tube is that it will not accommodate any buffer I know of that weighs more than about five and a half ounces.

Hunter Customs · December 13, 2015, 05:36 PM

The main purpose for my AR is hunting, my AR came with a collapsible stock I replaced it with a fixed AR stock.

I realize the collapsible stock may be better for close quarter battle, that being said when I was in the military we were taught for close quarter battle to flip the butt stock into out armpit and squeeze the stock between our bicep and chest, then point shoot the rifle.

HALL,AUSTIN · December 13, 2015, 06:04 PM

A lot of good points. I went with a fixed stock after having a collapsible, didn't like the small ammount of wiggle it had. Also mortaring out a stuck case is easier with a fixed stock vs the collapsible.

December 11, 2015, 03:44 AM	#26
jakethomas97 Junior Member Join Date: August 8, 2014 Posts: 3	Very important point There are two main reasons why I would want a fixed stock, and they are the only reasons out there. Rigidity- best for the long range shots, etc. Appearance- There's nothing sexier than a retro government 20" AR15. Unfortunately appearance doesn't mean as much as diversity to me, and as for rigidity I can wrap a piece of paper or plastic around between the tube and stock and make it very stiff- one position in from farthest out. This alone keeps me with the collapsible. In fact the bigger wobble factor is between my lower and upper, and unfortunately I have yet to find an acu-wedge-like solution that lasts.

December 11, 2015, 09:25 AM	#30
zukiphile Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2005 Posts: 4,457	If you need a short length of pull, shorter than an A1, a stock that uses a carbine buffer tube makes a lot of sense. Length of pull is a personal issue, but seems a less acute issue if one uses traditional positions as opposed to positions adapted to use of armor. One draw back of a carbine buffer tube is that it will not accommodate any buffer I know of that weighs more than about five and a half ounces. __________________ http://www.npboards.com/index.php

December 11, 2015, 04:49 AM	#27
Gunplummer Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2010 Location: South East Pa. Posts: 3,364	I agree with Quentin2. It has a place in hunting. I usually only take my AR out for deer in nasty weather, and then I walk in close, brushy places. When you have a heavy coat on and a backpack with thick straps, it really comes in handy. It is a lot faster to get on your shoulder when you are walking around jumping deer.

December 11, 2015, 06:20 AM	#28
kcub Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,318	I have a SBR Krinkov that fits into an innocuous backpack with a 20 round mag inserted ready to rock and roll. It's my Katrina gun. I can appear unarmed and yet still have a long gun ready. I'm not sure a SBR AR would be short enough for a backpack with that tube sticking out the back of the receiver. If it is maybe a collapsible or folding stock might work. Just not quite as compact as the AK. Maybe with a bigger backpack. A really short SBR Saiga 12 gauge would be excellent.

December 11, 2015, 08:20 AM	#29
Mobuck Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Posts: 6,846	Roughly 2/3 of our AR stable has collapsible stocks. I find the solid stock easier to shoot from sandbags but the adjustable has it's place on a hunting/SD rifle. The heavy barrel configuration balances better with a solid stock plus you can add ballast to offset that muzzle weight.

December 13, 2015, 05:36 PM	#31
Hunter Customs Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2005 Location: Osborn, Missouri Posts: 2,697	The main purpose for my AR is hunting, my AR came with a collapsible stock I replaced it with a fixed AR stock. I realize the collapsible stock may be better for close quarter battle, that being said when I was in the military we were taught for close quarter battle to flip the butt stock into out armpit and squeeze the stock between our bicep and chest, then point shoot the rifle.

December 13, 2015, 06:04 PM	#32
HALL,AUSTIN Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2011 Location: asheville north carolina Posts: 556	A lot of good points. I went with a fixed stock after having a collapsible, didn't like the small ammount of wiggle it had. Also mortaring out a stuck case is easier with a fixed stock vs the collapsible.