22-250 Ackley

jcm412 · February 11, 2005, 11:54 PM

I am looking to buy a new varmint rifle and i can accross something about a 22-250 Ackley. I was wondering what exactly it is. Can you buy a rifle chambered for a 22-250 Ackley or is this only an upgrade or some kind of alteration to a normal 22-250 rem. Will someone please fill me in on the 22-250 Ackley.

Thanks

Brick · February 12, 2005, 04:59 AM

Hello everyone.™

Sorry buddy, cross-posting in different forums is frowned upon here.

P.S. The other one, in The Art of the Rifle, is fine.

Harry Bonar · February 24, 2005, 01:05 PM

Dear Sir:
Your 22-250 Ackley would be a handloading project.
Now, a PROPERLY chambered barrel, you could still shoot FACTORY 22-250 ammo in, but you would end up with a "fire formed" case that you would need 22-250 Ackley dies to reload.
This is about like the 8MM - 06? Your 22-250 is plenty hot enough, and so is a european loaded 8MM Mauser.
Stick with your standard 22-250

James K · February 25, 2005, 12:05 AM

The .22-250 Ackley (usually called the .22-250 Ackley Improved) is like all the other "Ackley Improved" cartridges in having a slightly blown out case and a sharper shoulder than the (now) factory .22-250. The factory .22-250 Remington is itself slightly modified from the original .22-250 Varminter.

The only way to get a rifle in .22-250 Ackley Improved would be to build one or to buy a regular .22-250 and have it re-chambered to the improved case dimensions. Either way would mean paying Clymer or someone to make a special reamer, as the AI cartridges never were standardized and (AFAIK) no reamer company has them in the regular line. In addition, as Harry points out, it would be a handloading proposition for which special dies would also have to be made. All in all, it probably would not be worth it unless you just want to "pay to play" and try for all you can get out of that old cartridge.

When we read today about all the things the old timers did, we forget that they were all highly capable machinists. Making reamers, making loading dies, even drilling and rifling barrels were no big deal to them. Many (most?) of today's gunsmiths (and I say this with a degree of sadness) can barely install a pre-threaded barrel.

Jim

February 11, 2005, 11:54 PM	#1
jcm412 Member Join Date: February 11, 2005 Posts: 15	22-250 Ackley I am looking to buy a new varmint rifle and i can accross something about a 22-250 Ackley. I was wondering what exactly it is. Can you buy a rifle chambered for a 22-250 Ackley or is this only an upgrade or some kind of alteration to a normal 22-250 rem. Will someone please fill me in on the 22-250 Ackley. Thanks

February 24, 2005, 01:05 PM	#3
Harry Bonar Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: In the Vincent, Ohio general area. Posts: 1,804	22-250 Ackley Dear Sir: Your 22-250 Ackley would be a handloading project. Now, a PROPERLY chambered barrel, you could still shoot FACTORY 22-250 ammo in, but you would end up with a "fire formed" case that you would need 22-250 Ackley dies to reload. This is about like the 8MM - 06? Your 22-250 is plenty hot enough, and so is a european loaded 8MM Mauser. Stick with your standard 22-250

February 12, 2005, 04:59 AM	#2
Brick Senior Member Join Date: October 2, 2004 Posts: 190	Hello everyone.™ Sorry buddy, cross-posting in different forums is frowned upon here. P.S. The other one, in The Art of the Rifle, is fine.

February 25, 2005, 12:05 AM	#4
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	The .22-250 Ackley (usually called the .22-250 Ackley Improved) is like all the other "Ackley Improved" cartridges in having a slightly blown out case and a sharper shoulder than the (now) factory .22-250. The factory .22-250 Remington is itself slightly modified from the original .22-250 Varminter. The only way to get a rifle in .22-250 Ackley Improved would be to build one or to buy a regular .22-250 and have it re-chambered to the improved case dimensions. Either way would mean paying Clymer or someone to make a special reamer, as the AI cartridges never were standardized and (AFAIK) no reamer company has them in the regular line. In addition, as Harry points out, it would be a handloading proposition for which special dies would also have to be made. All in all, it probably would not be worth it unless you just want to "pay to play" and try for all you can get out of that old cartridge. When we read today about all the things the old timers did, we forget that they were all highly capable machinists. Making reamers, making loading dies, even drilling and rifling barrels were no big deal to them. Many (most?) of today's gunsmiths (and I say this with a degree of sadness) can barely install a pre-threaded barrel. Jim