Road Rage Incident Phoenix

ltc444 · November 19, 2011, 12:14 AM

Update on the Road Rage Incident in Phoenix. See closed thread in general forem.

The Maricopa county Attorney has dismissed charges against a Phoenix Attorny. This was reported on local TV.

The report included a general discussion of the AZ Castle doctrine.

Following is the orginal story

http://www.azcentral.com/.../2011111...rage-shooting- abrk.html

divil · November 19, 2011, 12:56 AM

Link is broken.

Carne Frio · November 19, 2011, 01:06 AM

It was a mistrial....according to :

http://www.kold.com/story/16079172/m...oad-rage-trial

divil · November 19, 2011, 01:07 AM

No that is not it. That happened years ago, and the names don't match.

maestro pistolero · November 19, 2011, 01:42 AM

This one?

**Bud Helms** · November 19, 2011, 05:24 AM

Here is the original discussion on TFL last week, posted by geetarman: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=468430

secret_agent_man · November 19, 2011, 09:14 AM

Seems to be SOP with some agencies to charge whenever there is a shooting death, whether it will stick or not. Never have figured out why if the shooter is not a flight risk. I figure the cops and the DA knew all along this charge was BS.

What was the victim thinking when he approached, that he was a cop? The idiot. We've had that thread, still running. This incident reads almost like suicide on the part of the victim. What an idiot.

ltc444 · November 19, 2011, 09:19 AM

carme frio. That was a different trial. This one never went to trial.

Sorry about the broken link. It is archieved at AZCentral.com. The Az Republic has not reported on the dismissal.

Al Norris · November 19, 2011, 10:40 AM

I don't see the point. This is not a civil rights problem. Nor is it a problem with the law. Depending upon the jurisdiction, any shooting can (and in general, will) bring charges against the shooter.

What civil rights or legal consequences are we discussing?

maestro pistolero · November 19, 2011, 01:30 PM

Quote:

I don't see the point. This is not a civil rights problem. Nor is it a problem with the law. Depending upon the jurisdiction, any shooting can (and in general, will) bring charges against the shooter. What civil rights or legal consequences are we discussing?

Apparently none, at least yet, as we still haven't seen the update due to the broken link.

Fishing_Cabin · November 19, 2011, 05:32 PM

It seems that just a preliminary charge until things are sorted out is the "norm" in some areas. Just because the charges are/were dropped, it doesn't mean that if something major came along, to prove something else beyond self-defense occured, charges could be filed again.

I was unable to connect to the other links, but found this news article about it. the link is below.

http://www.kpho.com/story/16079364/c...d-rage-suspect

secret_agent_man · November 19, 2011, 07:20 PM

Quote:

According to police, if Pearson choked Appleton, then there will be DNA evidence on Appleton's shirt.

Appleton's DNA will most assuredly be present on his own shirt, but Pearson's DNA also on the defender's shirt??? Doesn't necessarily follow. Leastwise, lack of the victim's DNA on the shirt does not prove the victim choked Appleton.

Now if police had collected DNA from Appleton's neck at the scene, the presence of Pearson's DNA might be prima facie evidence Pearson choked Appleton. And prove Appleton had a justifiable reason to shoot Pearson.

youngunz4life · November 19, 2011, 07:48 PM

you know the lawyer is too smart to implicate himself and/or say anything else that differentiates from his originally communication during the incident. I wanted to say that last week. I just don't think this gentleman will face any charges or at least any that hold any real consequences.

Al Norris · November 20, 2011, 12:19 AM

I don't see any reason to keep this going. If the OP has good cause to reopen the thread, he can PM me with the details.

As it stands, it is off topic and closed.

November 19, 2011, 12:14 AM	#1
ltc444 Senior Member Join Date: March 3, 2011 Location: Vernon AZ Posts: 1,195	Road Rage Incident Phoenix Update on the Road Rage Incident in Phoenix. See closed thread in general forem. The Maricopa county Attorney has dismissed charges against a Phoenix Attorny. This was reported on local TV. The report included a general discussion of the AZ Castle doctrine. Following is the orginal story http://www.azcentral.com/.../2011111...rage-shooting- abrk.html Last edited by ltc444; November 19, 2011 at 12:23 AM.

November 19, 2011, 07:48 PM	#13
youngunz4life Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2010 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,877	you know the lawyer is too smart to implicate himself and/or say anything else that differentiates from his originally communication during the incident. I wanted to say that last week. I just don't think this gentleman will face any charges or at least any that hold any real consequences. __________________ "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" -Admiral Farragut @ Battle of Mobile Bay 05AUG1864

November 19, 2011, 12:56 AM	#2
divil Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2009 Posts: 506	Link is broken.

November 19, 2011, 01:06 AM	#3
Carne Frio Senior Member Join Date: August 28, 2008 Location: Near Fairbanks Alaska Posts: 829	It was a mistrial....according to : http://www.kold.com/story/16079172/m...oad-rage-trial

November 19, 2011, 01:07 AM	#4
divil Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2009 Posts: 506	No that is not it. That happened years ago, and the names don't match.

November 19, 2011, 01:42 AM	#5
maestro pistolero Senior Member Join Date: August 16, 2007 Posts: 2,153	This one?

November 19, 2011, 05:24 AM	#6
Bud Helms Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 1999 Location: Middle Georgia, USA Posts: 13,198	Here is the original discussion on TFL last week, posted by geetarman: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=468430

November 19, 2011, 09:14 AM	#7
secret_agent_man Junior member Join Date: March 25, 2011 Posts: 463	Seems to be SOP with some agencies to charge whenever there is a shooting death, whether it will stick or not. Never have figured out why if the shooter is not a flight risk. I figure the cops and the DA knew all along this charge was BS. What was the victim thinking when he approached, that he was a cop? The idiot. We've had that thread, still running. This incident reads almost like suicide on the part of the victim. What an idiot.

November 19, 2011, 09:19 AM	#8
ltc444 Senior Member Join Date: March 3, 2011 Location: Vernon AZ Posts: 1,195	carme frio. That was a different trial. This one never went to trial. Sorry about the broken link. It is archieved at AZCentral.com. The Az Republic has not reported on the dismissal.

November 19, 2011, 10:40 AM	#9
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	I don't see the point. This is not a civil rights problem. Nor is it a problem with the law. Depending upon the jurisdiction, any shooting can (and in general, will) bring charges against the shooter. What civil rights or legal consequences are we discussing?

November 19, 2011, 05:32 PM	#11
Fishing_Cabin Senior Member Join Date: February 10, 2010 Posts: 720	It seems that just a preliminary charge until things are sorted out is the "norm" in some areas. Just because the charges are/were dropped, it doesn't mean that if something major came along, to prove something else beyond self-defense occured, charges could be filed again. I was unable to connect to the other links, but found this news article about it. the link is below. http://www.kpho.com/story/16079364/c...d-rage-suspect

November 20, 2011, 12:19 AM	#14
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	I don't see any reason to keep this going. If the OP has good cause to reopen the thread, he can PM me with the details. As it stands, it is off topic and closed.