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May 15, 2013, 01:00 PM | #1 |
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Is It a National Match Model?
Hi Folks!
In this week’s exciting episode of “What the Heck Did I Buy?” we have a Winchester Model 70, which was sold to me as a National Match model. The serial number is 351433, which would place its date of manufacture in the mid-1950s. The barrel is approximately 24 inches long. The sights are Redfield International, front and rear. Here’s a photo … Please excuse the crappy cell phone image. I promise to post better images later, but what should I be taking photos of to establish whether or not it really is a National Model. Thanks! Dave |
May 15, 2013, 01:23 PM | #2 |
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It LOOKS like a M70 NM with sporter weight barrel in Marksman stock, with target peep and globe sights.
Is the barrel drilled and tapped for a front target scope block? Does it have a clip slot? |
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Which by the way was quite popular back then for high power shooting. They were AND still are great guns. I have one just like it in 308 Win. Suckers are dern accurate and will serve you well if you decide to get into target shooting. Get some stripper clips and learn to load it, they are fun to shoot and fairly fast.
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May 15, 2013, 07:47 PM | #6 |
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Here are some better photos. Enjoy!
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May 15, 2013, 08:48 PM | #7 |
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That is one nice gun,
Your choice but if it was mine, I'd never let it go. Take it out and shoot a High Power match, impress the kids and tacti-cool crowd. I enjoy beating fancy high price guns with a relic.
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May 16, 2013, 05:35 AM | #9 |
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Classic. Very nice!
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May 19, 2013, 09:26 AM | #11 |
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Beautiful rifle.
That sure is a beautiful rifle, boy I'd like to shoot one, once maybe.
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FWIW, that rifle takes M1903 Springfield clips.
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May 21, 2013, 07:37 PM | #14 |
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Yes, that's the original National Match model with a standard weight barrel
complete with rear sight boss. They used regular hunting/sporter barrels. But I don't think those Redfield front and rear sights are original with the rifle; they were made after Winchester quit making the National Match models. Here's another picture of a different one equipped with an Unertl scope typical of what WWII and Korean Conflict snipers used: All the "National Match" models were made in .30-06. Later ones with heavier barrels, including those made after 1964 with push-feed actions and hammer forged barrels were plain "Match" models. The "Bull Gun" was Winchester's first heavy barrel match rifle and first made in the late 1940's (?). Chambered for the .300 H&H Mag, it was a popular over-the-counter long range target rifle. One's shown below: Winchester custom made a dozen or so round actions with the receivers not milled out for a magazine. Solid bottom and weighed over a pound more; one of the stiffest bolt actions ever made. And fitted with a .308 Win. chambered Hart barrel. All under contract with the US Army Advanced Marksmanship Unit in 1959. Interesting link to this rare thing from Winchester: http://books.google.ca/books?id=fw1n...ceiver&f=false Last edited by Bart B.; May 21, 2013 at 08:00 PM. |
May 21, 2013, 10:50 PM | #15 |
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Thanks! Are they yours?!?
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May 22, 2013, 06:30 AM | #16 |
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Dave, nope, not mine. Just pictures and info I got searching the web.
Missed a chance to buy one of the Win. 70 single shot barreled actions some years ago; a friend beat me to it. Had Winchester put that single shot action on the market, Remington's 40X ones would have never survived. |
May 22, 2013, 07:19 AM | #17 |
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Still, very nice. Thanks for the info ... and for your service!
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May 22, 2013, 01:43 PM | #18 |
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From the "who cares?" file of gun lore:
The terms "bull barrel" and "bull gun" do not come from any comparison to the size and weight of the male bovine, but from Freeman Bull, a Springfield Armory employee who advocated using heavy barrels for accuracy in the Armory's match rifles. Jim |
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